Broken promises runner?
What like no cuts to the ABC or SBS, no changes to the pension, full support for the NDIS and Gonski, no changes to health and education, no GST increase, one million new jobs, no deals with minor parties or independents, a double dissolution, no suprises, a grown up government.

foxy,

A project that is going to cost roughly an additional $7bn p.a. from 2017 to 2030 without any economic benefit to the country is going to need bipartisan support, otherwise it will simply be ditched after a change of government as we saw with the world's biggest carbon tax.

Have labor or their supporters given any thought to how they can achieve such targets.

Of cause while chasing this dream, they will also be looking to secure jobs and continue to increase wages and conditions for all workers. It's a complete joke.

How do they propose to continue mining on the same scale,, or in fact increasing production to meet world demands, or how can they sustain our agucultrual export numbers while slashing emissions, because this sector, especially livestock production is a huge contributor.

Labor is a floundering ship and they have no captain Bligh and no Mr Chirtian stepping up to perform a mutiny. They are dead in the water hopelessly floating along in a boat with no paddle.

Sadly, we have a government that appears to have lost it's way and no alternative to take it's place, other than the train wreck that has left us in such a mess (AGAIN).

The sooner people come to the realization that our future power source will come from nuclear power the sooner we can stop this renewable rot and redirect our funding into something more worthwhile. Something that not only provides our cleaner energy needs, but also protects our jobs and livelihoods.

Until such is realized, and accepted, the renewable energy dreamers will simply continue to waste money we simply don't have.

"The European land area easily fits inside the continent of Australia with a fair bit left over, it is obvious that the greater the land area the greater the potential to produce renewable energy." Whilst this is true warmair, it is also one of the major problems with Mickey Mouse power.

The cost of transmitting wind power from suitable points of generation is often greater than the cost of the facility to produce that power, & makes most of the large projects economic stupidity for about the 4Th reason.

Germany is already in trouble with their grid being near to breaking with the problem of absorbing highly fluctuating power. It does not have the capacity to transmit it's wind power from generation point to the industrial area that may be able to use it. It is currently, [like it] using neighbouring countries transmission capacity to be able to use much of this job, & those countries are threatening to pull the plug, [another one], on them.

Even in small countries transmission lines are hugely expensive.

The UK have delegated approval of wind farms to local councils, effectively preventing any more on land development of this monster, & they are still trying unsuccessfully to actually get power from their off shore farms back to land , let alone to where it's needed.

Wind is rubbish. Thank god we have a government with enough sense to shut the door before the horse has bolted.

Dear Shadow Minister,

Natural resources are finite and polluting.
They use existing power producing plants that
are antiquated and would cost enormously to
be replaced. Why then not invest in new power
generation (for the cost of replacing the antiquated
polluting power stations) using renewable power sources
such as wind, sun, and water, which costs nothing to
resource. We have to look at long term economics -
not immediate short-term solutions. The phrase -
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it," does not apply in this
case because it is already on the verge of breaking.

The current outlook of the government may be relevant in
the short term of our life-time but it certainly is
mis-guided when we look at the future needs of our nation.
And coutries like Denmark, Germany, the US, New Zealand,
will advance into the future while we will be left
behind into the backwater like many African countries
today. Do we really want to be that regressive.
We already are losing ground in our international reputation
as it is - we certainly don't need to add to it.

As I have said before but it appaears no one is listening.
It is due to the low Energy Return on Energy Invested (ERoEI).
Forget the money numbers, that is irrelevant.
What really counts in the end is how much energy you get out for the energy put in.
Unless you get a significant increase then you are going backwards.
Ultimately this is reflected in the cost per kw/hr.

Forget global warming, this problem is bigger than that.
The ERoEI of oil and coal is declining and we will have to leave oil & coal before they leave us.

We have to find an energy source with a high ERoEI.
I suspect that the European governments and it seems our government
has woken up to this problem and that is why funds are being removed
from wind subsidies and diverted to a search for better alternatives.
I do not think it is a co-incidence that all this switching is happening just now.