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The Marxist "debate" strategy boiled down to spouting gibberish and nonsensiscal talking points until someone would say "Huh? what the hell are you talking about?" at which the dude would exclaim "Aha, you need to educate yourself my friend!". When that was going nowhere the Marxist who had been joined by a friend at this stage tried conciliation, "Well we can all agree that ALL religions are no good right?" and abruptly changed his tone to a matey, blokey air, de escalating the argument to a point where he and his opponent professed "respect" for each other's right to free speech and parted ways.

Conservative Hippie, the hard Left don't have any real point of view or even an ideology anymore, they simply stand opposed to certain things just for the sake of opposing them. If they can't physically intimidate an opponent, they try to mock them, then shame them and then simply baffle them with a torrent of gibberish, if all else fails they'll conciliate and AGREE with a person who minutes before they were loudly denouncing as "Fascist"!
New Matilda and the like are part of that school marmish shaming tactic which works on the "empathiser" personality types, for the "systemisers" they have simple chants and rote actions to perform, it's that simple but the simplicity betrays the void behind the Left wing bluster.

JoM,

"I was part of an interesting exchange at the Reclaim rally on Saturday.
A middle aged patriot who found himself essentially surrounded by Anti Racist protestors began to repeat his "right wing" talking points about Sharia law, the treatment of women under Islam and so forth.
At first the Anti Racists tried to physically intimidate him, that failed because he was a huge man and by that point several other people including myself had come to his side. When shoving and threats failed to dislodge him they then tried to mock, tease and humiliate him, that failed as well as the man just laughed in their faces and clowned around, waving his Australian flag and dancing about with them.
Then they tried shame, a little old White haired lady about 70 years old arrived on the scene and using her best primary school teacher tone demanded that he hand over his flag as he was being disrespectful and a naughty boy. This produced gales of laughter from both sides and at this point a big fat Lesbian ambushed the patriot from behind and grabbed his flag while a girl in a rabbit costume threw a handful of glitter in his face, he roared with laughter and threw up his hands saying "Fine! It's OK!".
The worst was yet to come, the horror of the "debate" was next, a skinny dude in his forties, a stereotypical Marxist "intellectual" in a flat cap and sunglasses began questioning the patriot's talking points. This went on for some time with myself and a group of patriotic women interjecting and everyone talking over the top of one another."

Thanks for that.....you write as if it's an impressive gathering.

This is the sort of confrontation and rabble that the Abbott govt has dog-whistled into existence.

Appealing to base instincts produces base reactions - not civil discourse.

Why are you celebrating our descent into melee?

Dear Is Mise,

Nah. It would be a waste of my time to
try again for you because no matter what
I may come up with - you're simply going
to take it as "the exception that proves the rule,"
as you've done thus far.

I shall leave you to your beliefs.

Shame, Poirot!

Elitist Poirot is highly judgemental and censorious where ordinary citizens exercising their right of free speech is concerned.

Poirot would have them know that it is the leftist elite who presume to always know what is best for everyone else, so they can bugger off.

Far from condemning free speech, which is the way of the totalitarian leftists, in a democracy we should welcome it, only requesting that there be consideration for others who must use thoroughfares and run businesses and that they be civil and obey laws of course.

It used to be usual for speakers to gather in certain parks in cities. They were shown every politeness and the heckling was generous to a fault. They and their transient audiences were part of city life.

Regrettably there are now the attention-seeking professional activists who seem to pop up anywhere and everywhere and seem to get their buzz out of making others, particularly authority, do their bidding. It is a power thing for them and they are prone to shouting down and disrupting anyone who doesn't fit their image and opinion.

Nasty types who would prevent the exercise of free speech should be be shown the door, or feel the hand of arresting police.

Poirot,
I should add that neither side has even the vaguest idea of what they're doing or a long term objective apart from fighting each other, as I said, it's a bunch of White people punching on in the street over Islam, while the Mohammedans stand on the sidelines watching and no doubt biding their time.

"Shame, Poirot!

Elitist Poirot is highly judgemental and censorious where ordinary citizens exercising their right of free speech is concerned.

Poirot would have them know that it is the leftist elite who presume to always know what is best for everyone else, so they can bugger off."

Nice try, otb.....you're in favour of dog-whistled unrest on our streets then?

What say, we all go down to the main street for a bit of belligerence, shoving and biffo - that's the way a society should conduct itself.

Don't come bellowing to me about "shame" because you feel like having a go.....Mr:

"I cannot say I represent sartorial elegance by any means, but (for example) I do own pairs of dress shoes for starters and no, business shoes are not stand-ins for them. I enjoy formal occasions and could not imagine a year where we didn't attend at least two balls. For a meal out of an evening I wear a light suit minimum or at least a nice jacket. Why go to a restaurant where those are not the usual dress expectations? -There would be no sense of occasion and no respect for the lady you escort as well."
(Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 12 October 2014 9:37:40 PM)

You are so full of it, you wax lyrical about such things, but are happy to see supposedly civilised Aussies descend into melee - and call it "free speech".

"Nasty types who would prevent the exercise of free speech should be be shown the door, or feel the hand of arresting police."

Go and take a funny run, you silly little man...JoM has a far better handle on this nonsense than you could ever hope to:

"Poirot,
I should add that neither side has even the vaguest idea of what they're doing or a long term objective apart from fighting each other, as I said, it's a bunch of White people punching on in the street over Islam, while the Mohammedans stand on the sidelines watching and no doubt biding their time.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 25 July 2015 10:49:44 AM"