Dear ConservativeHippie,

Tony Abbott won the party leadership by just
one vote and his term both in opposition and
in office has been marked by a passionate
embrace of negative campaigning across the
political spectrum. As I've stated earlier -
honing negativity to a fine art in opposition
undermines public fonfidence in the institutions of
government and creates a monster that threatens to
consume them in power.

Yes, I have had serious concerns about Mr Abbott's
judgement and I have questioned whether he's fit to
lead the party at the next election. Mr Abbott's
unbelievable faux pas, the utter confusion and the\
fact that he seems to be in touch with an Australia
50-60 years out od date -I became convinced that
someone else must be ab le to do a better job.

However, I have never used derogatory terms such
as those used by other to describe our former PMs -
Julia Gillard, or Kevin Rudd. My criticism of Mr
Abbott has been of his actions, judgement, policy
flaws, and fitness
as leader. And I am not alone in this. His own MPs
have the same serious concerns.

As Judith Ireland points out in her article in the
Sydney Morning Herald - "3 years is not long enough
for federal governments to settle in. They get 12 months
to have a crack before people start to look nervously
at the next polling date."

She points out that - "the job has become so demanding, so
difficult, so breathless, that it would take a mix of
Gandhi, Superman, Princess Diana, Socrates, Queen Elizabeth I,
and Zeus to do it properly.
Any takers?"

Dear Shadow Minister,

I am pleased that Bill Shorten has agreed to appear on
the ABC programme "The Insiders," this Sunday for an
interview with Barrie Cassidy. Answers to questions
should be resolved. When do you think that our Prime
Minister will do the same regarding the payments to
people smugglers?

Foxy,

I'm just giving up on you, not OLO. You need much more help with your delusions than I could give you. There are some people who learn by rote what they think is right, and they can never change. I grew up in a strict Labor regime. I actually fell for your socialist utopia until I left home, grew up, and started to meet people who didn't have totalitarian politics drummed into them. I proved capable of thinking for myself, and capable of change.
I am still capable of change. While I have been a conservative for long time, and always will be now, I am effectively disenfranchised by the party that, until now, has been the closest thing we have had to a conservative party. Thanks to the total disconnection of Abbott and Hockey from the real world and real people, they have lost my support. I obviously won't vote for ALP wreckers, so I will not vote at all.

My final comment to you is: loosen up. People and situations change all the time. No politician can be trusted.

ttbn,
Foxy has been posting here for longer than I care to recall.

This is what she said about her view that Australia is racist

"People who are in denial about racism in this country are simply ignorant. Lets look at the facts - we imprison
brown asylum seekers, we once celebrated our national day
with a white racist riot. There were assaults on Indian
students, a little political organisation called
One Nation, and of course "the intervention" - the heraldic
beak on our long hawkish treatment of Indigenous Australians".
Foxy, OLO Friday 18-4-2014 12.18.35

These are the 'facts' she uses to support her views. I pointed out her error on a number of occasions but she refused to correct or withdraw.

Dear tbbn,

You giving up on me?

I wasn't aware that I was in need of your approval.
However, now that I know. I guess it's something
I shall have to learn to live with (sigh).

Thank You for sharing your political background with me.
And for being so open and honest. It is appreciated.

I grew up in a Liberal Party supporting
- conservative household.

However, having lived and worked in the United States
(at the University of Southern California in Los Angeles),
I found the US Democratic Party attractive.
Coming back to Australia - I still voted Liberal until
the last term of Mr Howard - where I began to question
what I saw as flaws in not only policies, but his
judgements, and his ability as leader. The rest as they
say is history.

I still voted Liberal at the state elections - but
with Mr Abbott as the leader - federally this is not
going to happen unless there's a change of leadership.

There you have it.

We've both learned something about each other.

One of our most intelligent posters on this forum
is David F. He once gave the following piece of
advice to another poster which I think is appropriate
to pass on here. David told him:

"One way of arguing is to cite one's opinion as fact ...
Which is what you have done. Another way of arguing is
false labeling. Which you have done...
If you wish to argue with me please keep your comments factual
and don't confuse your opinions with fact."

Dear Banjo,

Once again you've taken things out of context.
It would help if you had explained the topic
of the discussion - that was taking place and
the context of my remarks.

This you've neglected to do in your attempt to
slur me - which is typical of your strong
stance against immigrants (especially Muslims).
That is the drum that you keep beating on this
forum - and the skin is wearing a bit thin.

Anyway I shall stand by my posting record.
Yours speaks for itself.

Free Fox burns, ow, ouch! LOL