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Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 4 July 2015 3:18:31 PM
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So ConservativeHippie is feed up with those that criticise the regime, those that are continually attacking 'Fearless Leader'!
Who cares about this new "Boarder Force Act" from the regime in Canberra, it only affects a very small percentage of the population. If it is successful in silencing those obvious communists, who have infiltrated the sanctity of boarder security institutions so be it. If the act is successful it should be extended and renamed 'The Australian Force Act' to cover communists and rabble rouses working in any sphere of government. Then the regime can get down to the serious business of tackling those in society generally, communists, rabble rouses and others, who are contravening the new 'Un-Australian Activity Act'. In that way ConservativeHippie will fell no need to be feed up with those that criticise the regime, those that are continually attacking 'Fearless Leader' they have all been silenced! Foxy 'Totalitarianism' that is a big word for me to understand, does it have the same meaning as 'Abbottism'? LOL Shadow, thank you for that learned legal opinion. -Rumpole Of The Bailey. http://theconversation.com/border-force-act-entrenches-secrecy-around-australias-asylum-seeker-regime-44136 Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 4 July 2015 4:00:35 PM
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Here you go, another perfect example how the Lefties extrapolate and see what they want to see.
From Paul1405 - "So ConservativeHippie is feed up with those that criticise the regime, those that are continually attacking 'Fearless Leader'! " Compared to my actual post: "I am however getting sick of the exaggerated and un-verifiable claims that seem to keep popping up from those with an obsessed hatred for Tony Abbott." Posted by ConservativeHippie, Saturday, 4 July 2015 4:25:17 PM
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Dear ConservativeHippie,
Criticising the Abbott-led Coalition government's asylum-seeker policies surely does not equate with "hating" the man. And saying so is dishonest. Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 4 July 2015 4:29:20 PM
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Foxy, you don't think Poirot and Paul1405 hate Abbott.
Maybe hate is too harsh especially for a lovingly kind person like you; I'll re-phrase to they just can't the man and wouldn't give him an ounce of credit for anything. They would both be happy if he miraculously disappeared overnight. I know how they feel, I felt that way about Ronald Reagan. Its the continual name calling coupled with the insults that I'm sick of, combined with presenting statements that are essentially false accusations such as 'how many boats have sunk that we don't know about?' Presented as if there is some evidence to think it is so. Its grubby and I'm sick of it. We all have people on OLO that we find more annoying than others. I'm sure I get up their noses as much as they up mine. Posted by ConservativeHippie, Saturday, 4 July 2015 4:55:22 PM
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Hi Paul,
I suppose we need a Boarder Force for calcitrant boarders who won't pay their rent, or trash the place. But why do you assume - you mention it three times in one post - that the Border Force will be used primarily against communists ? A little bit twentieth century, don't you think ? Or are you trying to slip in, in a dastardly clever way, that Islamist fascists now are something like communists used to be: harassed, hounded, constantly targeted ? And that they thereby deserve our sympathy in some way ? Or is that drawing too long a bow ? Dear Foxy, Secrecy or confidentiality: it's a big sea out there, and locating smugglers' boat must be a bit like cat and mouse. If the Navy or Border Force or whatever gave out the co-ordinates and trajectories of all their ships, who knows, gosh, it might be of some use to smugglers. So let's surmise instead: suppose twenty boats have been stopped, crews paid off, turned around and escorted back to Indonesia, @ $ 50,000 per crew. That's a million dollars all-up. And problem solved. End of. I think we got off pretty cheap, really. LOL [lots of love] Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 4 July 2015 5:20:24 PM
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Australia is joining other tyrannies like the UK for example from whom the law is inspired. However, If you actually read the act, there is still an obligation to report acts of child abuse to the relevant authorities which can include the detention center authorities, the police either on Nauru or in Aus, and child services.
What it does preclude activists from doing is making reports to the newspapers and bypassing the relevant authorities. Which under civil law would already land them in trouble in Aus.