o sung wu,

If my last humble request to you didn’t do anything to pacify you in my attempt to sincerely acquire some information from an experienced person, then nothing will.

Why the need to be a smart alec about it? If you will remember, I received some severe abuse from yourself a few months ago (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6653&page=0) and despite that, here I am trying to seek some further information from you with the utmost politeness. Well, I give up. It is clear from your abuse that you have been caught out on your claim regarding the criminality of asylum seekers.

You had no way of determining whether or not you were dealing with was an asylum seeker. You just invented a story to make it sound as if they were criminally inclined when you had no way of knowing. You used your role as a former cop to fool others and that is dishonest.

Then, in an attempt to distract from that, you raise the issue of my cop cousin that you don’t believe exists because he’s actually educated. Well, if it makes you feel any better, he’s still a bit of a racist bigot, but that’s understandable given the fact that racist stereotypes are a coping mechanism for police. It provides them with a sense of predictability and thus prevents them from suffering levels of stress greater than what they already do.

Once again, you can make it sound like criminologists are just a bunch of academics who wouldn’t have a clue, but many of them are former cops who would set the record straight if criminologists really were as clueless as what you make them out to be. Yet none of them ever do.

Funny that.

Finally, you may never have had close contact with criminologists yourself, but there are 10.000 police in Queensland, and there would be even more in NSW, so it’s not unusual that you never had any contact with them.

By the way, my qualifications don't change according to the situation. I am now a qualified criminologist, to your dismay, obviously.

This is good news. If successful, the initiative finally overcomes immigration mistakes readily acknowledged by senior Labor ministers (eg Bob Carr, Foreign Minister) of the previous Rudd and Gillard+Greens governments.

<Canberra ready to deport Iranians

Australia has moved closer to sending thousands of Iranian asylum seekers back to Tehran, with the Abbott Government on the verge of an historic agreement to deport detainees.
..

Under the former Labor government, Iranians comprised a big proportion of the asylum seekers making their way to Australia on boats.

But though many were found not to be refugees, the government was unable to return them to Tehran because Iran refused to accept them.

Immigration officials often pointed to some Iranian asylum seekers as being the most troublesome to manage in the detention centre network.>

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/national/a/28495080/canberra-ready-to-deport-iranians/

Philip S,

Have the nuclear bomb crazy Iranians suddenly become the flavor of the month with the conservatives, our new bosom buddies no less. Did not that great buffoon of the right George Wubbleu Bush describe them as part of the "axis of evil" as "helping terrorism and seeking weapons of mass destruction." (29th January 2002). What has changed, is it a (new) case of 'My enemies enemy is my friend'. Can we expect Tony Baloney to be inviting Iranians around to the lodge for a fun Sunday afternoon, a BBQ and some light entertainment, a beheading or three. Just like George, who at one time was a friend of The Taliban and Saddam Hussein.

I like this bit " It is believed any deal would demand there would be no retribution from the Iranian regime towards returned asylum seekers." Now that is a doozy, no retribution, short of electric shocks, acid baths and beheading's.
Beach can be down at dock side loading them on board ship with his cattle prod!

Foxy

Could you please comment on this one, it is an absolute shocker! It follows in the footsteps of Liberal Party Founder and military coward 'Pig Iron' Bob Menzies who in the 1930's, after a two week visit to Nazi Germany, described Adolf Hitler as basically "a good bloke"! John Howard's support for racism during the 1970's South African rugby tour. I would say its up there with the best corkers of the Liberal Party.

When he was PM, Kevin Rudd and many of his ministers, his Foreign Minister Bob Carr being the spokesman, freely admitted that many claimed 'asylum seekers' were in fact sly, opportunist, economic migrants who had taken advantage of Australia's generosity and goodwill towards refugees.

Bob Carr and others went on further to say that some boats were 100% economic migrants, opportunist rogues who disposed of their papers at sea and used rehearsed stories, having set out to deliberately defraud the system. It is regrettable that there are always some who would be their apologists and are likely to be deriving some benefit from doing so.

Paul1405,
As a supporter of the Greens 'Watermelon' faction, you might think it is all a bit of a lark, but no-one else would applaud scoundrels who set out to abuse special conditions, displace genuine asylum seekers and take advantage of the Australian government and public to swing from the taxpayer's teat for life.

Beach, just put up the evidence for what you say. I'll be happy to read it. Bob Carr saying something does not necessary make it true, now does it.
People fleeing Iran, by you sides own admission a "murderous regime" could not be refugees, come come old boy. You want to return them to whatever would befall them.

Foxy,

What judicial is in the cards? You're dreaming.

This is yet another successful boat turn around, and as usual we will have the greens and activists huffing and puffing about illegality, and then once again they will retreat with their tails between their legs.

Thanks for the link to Chris Graham's article, and for reminding me of what a useless blog it is. I'm left wondering whether CG is pretending to be a moron or is the genuine article. Either way, the only reason to read the NM is if you are a far left whinger, distressed by reality and need some fantasy.