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What will homosexual marriage mean for Ireland?

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Dear Josephus,

Could you please provide evidence for your
claim that the only reason the state records
marriage is because it has to record births,
et cetera - in all the records I've searched
I've not been able to find your claim to be true.
There already exists a register of births,
deaths, et cetera, which is separate from
the register of marriages - and there's a variety
of reasons given for each one register. However,
the register of the birth of children and those
of marriages are separate records.
Your claim appears to be invalid.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 11 June 2015 9:44:11 AM
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Suse,

"Why not just be truthful and say you think homosexuality is an 'abomination' because a so-called disciple of Jesus said so in an ancient book?"

Which disciple of Jesus said that?

"Jesus or God never said that by the way, it was only said by another mere human.."

Didn't think that you believed in God, and wasn't Jesus a mere human in your philosophy?
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 11 June 2015 10:05:47 AM
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Foxy, I suggest you look at your birth certificate and you will find Fathers name - Mothers name. The records are part of the family tree, who is related to whom? Do some family history and find who was married to whom and who was their ancestor and who was their children. In every child's case you will find a mother and father.Though on some records father is listed as unknown. it doesn't mean the child did not have a father but the mother was promiscuous. Many de'facto couples register their relationship as married for the sake of the children. Marriage which is essentially the commitment is for the sake of the children. Which is exampled by many species who pair for life. Just that human reject the union and responsibility to their offspring. Marriage registrations were introduced by the Roman State and later administered by the Church to record its citizens births and deaths.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 11 June 2015 10:07:18 AM
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Dear Josephus,

I think you're a bit confused.

We are not talking about birth certificates here.
Not everyone who marries has children or wants them.
And on the marriage certificate - there is no father's
name or mother's name - listed because having
children is not a marriage requirement.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 11 June 2015 10:19:53 AM
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Dearest Is Mise, abominations and other terrible sins were ranted about in Leviticus, as you well know.
Technically, Moses wasn't an actual disciple of Jesus, but he certainly claimed to be the mouth-piece of a god!

Any good Christian would flog you for suggesting Jesus wasn't a god.
Didn't he rise again?
Not many humans can do that, apparently.
You are correct in saying I don't believe in any God, but I am merely quoting an old book.
Posted by Suseonline, Thursday, 11 June 2015 10:28:36 AM
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Suse,

You put your foot in it and your above post above won't absolve you from your inaccuracies.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 11 June 2015 10:35:13 AM
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