Toni Lavis, Marriage is primarily about raising and protecting children which results from vaginal sex. Other forms of deviate sex is not capable of producing children. Read any woman's magazines their obsession is who is marrying and who is having children. They clearly associate the two - marriage and children.

Reports show that almost all women who care about their vaginal health feel degraded and dirty with anal intercourse. It is the cause of infection.

Surveys of adopted children show that adopted in their mature years almost always suffer guilt and emotional displacement if not with their natural mother even if raised in a loving family. This is a primary reason surrogacy should not be used to birth children unless a close relative.

Homosexuals couples who want children must not be allowed to use surrogacy or IVF merely to satisfy their desire for children.

Fr Joe,

In your opinion then, who should be allowed to use surrogacy or IVF merely to satisfy their desire for children. If its not the Homosexual couples, then who?

Can you clear this one up for me, I believe it was "legal" to have sex in a church until medieval times. Just asking.

//Read any woman's magazines their obsession is who is marrying and who is having children. They clearly associate the two - marriage and children.//

I'd prefer not to. Any man who thinks that celebrity gossip mags present a realistic view of womanhood needs his head read as much as any man who thinks that zoo magazine (another trashy rag I'd prefer not to read) presents a realistic view of womanhood.

A woman is so much more than her 'naughty' bits or her potential to bear children. There's the conversations, and the games of scrabble, and the times she cooks you dinner after you've been cooking all day at work, and the falling asleep in her arms. There is more in life than sex, and I know I'm not the only one who gets that.

Which part of a male's anatomy prevents him conversing with his partner, playing scrabble, cooking dinner or spooning?

Or is it all about the sex, you dirty old pervert?

Josephus, you read reports about vaginal health?
Interesting.

The male penis (and women's vagina) can pass on infections of all sorts without ever having been near someone else's rectum.

As for adoption, I agree it can certainly lead to some very mixed up adoptees and relinquishing mothers. I am assuming you are ok with a woman's choice to choose abortion rather than be forced to carry on with an unwanted pregnancy and birth, and an adoption then?

Toni Lavis,
You know very well I mean relationship is more than sex, as all good relationships outside of marriage do not include sex. However sex is to be exclusive to within marriage as sex outside of a lifelong commitment to each other is merely using each other for self gratification.

I see you class sex as the "naughty bits" = rather an immature little boy view. Sex is primarily for procreation of children in one's image.

You said, "There's the conversations, and the games of scrabble, and the times she cooks you dinner after you've been cooking all day at work." A mother also does that but you do not have sex with your mother.

Suseonline, If you watch S.B.S. news reports as I do you find what is happening in health. My wife who was a senior nurse in the 1960's for a gynaecologist in Cornelle University Hospital totally agrees with you. That is why anal sex is unhygienic and causes so many problems to women health, whose husbands anally abused them.

Adoption to a family is a far lesser evil than the taking of a life of an unborn. The important factor is to give the child links to its birth family