It is now evident Foxy has very vague ideas of what marriage means. In her eyes it can mean anything as she constantly says there are many ideas and cultures of what marriage means; but has not been able to give an ancient culture where homosexuality is classed as marriage.

Dear Josephus,

I feel obliged to reply one last time to your
statements about me because they are simply
not true. You should not make assumptions about
people you don't know simply because they don't
want to discuss issues with you any further - due to your
closed mindedness on the subject of same-sex
marriage. I have definite ideas - and they are
not vague. You simply don't accept them. They
don't agree with your view.

Now, as far as same-sex marriage is concerned -
the following website tells us that:

There is a history of same-sex unions in cultures
around the world. Various types of same-sex unions
have existed - ranging from informal, unsanctioned
and temporary relationships to highly ritualised
unions that have included marriage.

Check it for yourself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_same-sex_unions

Interesting link, Foxy, I liked

"Among the Romans, there were instances of same-sex marriages being performed, as evidenced by emperors Nero who married an unwilling young boy and (possibly - though it is doubted by many historians) the child emperor Elagabalus, who both supposedly married a man, and by its outlaw in 342AD in the Theodosian Code, but the exact intent of the law and its relation to social practice is unclear, as only a few examples of same-sex marriage in that culture exist. [note few examples]

In Greece, the pederastic relationships between Greek men (erastes) and youths (eromenos) were similar to marriage in that the age of the youth was similar to the age at which women married (the mid-teens, though in some city states, as young as age seven), and the relationship could only be undertaken with the consent of the father.[citation needed] This consent, just as in the case of a daughter's marriage, was contingent on the suitor's social standing. The relationship consisted of very specific social and religious responsibilities and also had a sexual component. Unlike marriage, however, a pederastic relation was temporary and ended when the boy turned seventeen.

At the same time, many of these relationships might be more clearly understood as mentoring relationships between adult men and young boys rather than an analog of marriage. This is particularly true in the case of Sparta, where the relationship was intended to further a young boy's military training. While the relationship was generally lifelong and of profound emotional significance to the participants, it was not considered marriage by contemporary culture,[NOTE!!] and the relationship continued even after participants reached age 20 and married women, as was expected in the culture.[citation needed]

Numerous examples of same sex unions among peers, not age-structured, are found in Ancient Greek writings. Famous Greek couples in same sex relationships include Harmodius and Aristogiton, Pelopidas and Epaminondas and Alexander and Bogoas. However in none of these same sex unions is the Greek word for "marriage" ever mentioned.[NOTE again} The Romans appear to have been the first to perform same sex marriages."
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Meanwhile in ancient Egypt,

"Marriage was the normal and most desirable state for Ancient Egyptians of both genders and all social classes. Athenian men evinced little respect or affection for women and delayed marriage until well into their thirties, but most Egyptian men were eager to follow the advice of the wisdom literature urging them to take a wife while still young so they could found a household and raise a family. Most men were married by the age of twenty to girls who might have been as young as fifteen. There was an age difference, but usually not more than two or three years"
http://www.womenintheancientworld.com/marriage%20in%20ancient%20egypt.htm

You might read,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Egypt for some perspective.

"Homosexuality in Ancient Egypt is a passionately disputed subject within Egyptology: historians and egyptologists alike debate what kind of view the Ancient Egyptians society fostered about homosexuality. Only a handful of direct hints have survived to this day and many possible indications are only vague and offer plenty of room for speculation."

Is Mise :
"[again, you confuse me, do you think that Jesus was God?]"
I am sure you know full well what I mean Is Mise :)

I always thought that if Jesus was supposedly the son of a god, and of a human woman who gave birth to him after not having sex with that God, he would at least have been HALF a god, surely? Not only that, but didn't he amazingly rise from the dead?
I don't know any other humans who have done that?

Sooo....in actual fact, we are relying on other humans from 2000 years ago to tell us that homosexuality is an abomination, and NOT any God, am I right?

And now that the adulterers are not being stoned again because of 'laws', we should surely allow gays to marry once those laws are in effect, right?

//I always thought that if Jesus was supposedly the son of a god, and of a human woman who gave birth to him after not having sex with that God, he would at least have been HALF a god, surely?//

From wikipedia:

//The Christian doctrine of the Trinity (from Latin trinitas "triad", from trinus "threefold") defines God as three consubstantial persons, expressions, or hypostases: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit; "one God in three persons". The three persons are distinct, yet are one "substance, essence or nature". In this context, a "nature" is what one is, while a "person" is who one is.//

By Christian doctrine, Jesus IS God. And so is God, and the Holy Ghost as well. Confused? Join the club. The Trinity always gave me a headache until I realised it was all made up anyway.