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Ireland votes to legalize same-sex marriage

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Satirical post Is Mise?
Yeah right.

The fact remains that the Irish voted in legal same-sex marriage.
Isn't that marvelous?
Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 30 May 2015 1:20:32 PM
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Suse,

We know that, but how about answering the questions or, based on your deep understanding of the Irish people and Catholicism, tell us all where I have got it wrong with my limited understanding of the Irish people.
Tell us why the IRA existed in a 93% Catholic country when Catholics were forbidden by the Church to join the IRA.

Now don't skip out, just enlighten us all.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 30 May 2015 3:18:58 PM
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Lol Is Mise, you are never boring!
Like all Catholics, the Irish Catholics are selective about what they took from the good book, and from their holy elders.

It has only been in the past few years, as the disgusting truth has come out about the years of lies and cover-ups about child sex abuse amongst their so-called holy men that the Irish Catholics are really deciding about their lives for themselves.

But hey, I can't tell you anything about Catholicism, as you apparently already know it all.
Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 30 May 2015 4:14:12 PM
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Suse,

"Like all Catholics, the Irish Catholics are selective about what they took from the good book, and from their holy elders."

contrast the above with your's of the 24th inst.

"Having been to Ireland several times, I am stunned that their previously strict Catholic population have agreed that same-sex marriage should be legal."

Previously strict and now selective in previous times; I rather think that the selectivity is on your part.

By the way, Suse, with that Catholic upbringing of your's you should know that 'Elders' is not a Catholic term although it is commonly used in the Jewish religion and in some sections of Protestantism.

"But hey, I can't tell you anything about Catholicism, as you apparently already know it all."

You are right in the first part of your above sentence but wrong in the second, I'm still learning even though I majored in 'Religion'.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 30 May 2015 9:31:07 PM
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Is Mise, I think you will agree with me that there is a world of difference in Irish Catholics agreeing to allow legal gay marriage, as opposed to the Catholic hierarchy asking it's flock not to join the murderous IRA group?

The holy hierarchy had to at least be seen to discourage the bombings and shootings of Protestants and Catholics, even if secretly they were hiding the perpetrators within their ranks.
This is, after all, a favorite MO of this church...
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 31 May 2015 11:10:08 AM
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Suse,

"Is Mise, I think you will agree with me that there is a world of difference in Irish Catholics agreeing to allow legal gay marriage, as opposed to the Catholic hierarchy asking it's flock not to join the murderous IRA group?"

I don't agree at all, you are the one that is saying that Catholics in Ireland always did what the Church told them to do.
The Church did not ask its flock not to join the IRA, it forbade them to do so under pain of excommunication, the highest Church penalty.

If you know anything about the history of Ireland you will know that the Catholic Church has always opposed Irish Nationalism and the Republic and has always supported the British.
Individual churchmen have supported the 'Movement' and I've met a few priests who were active Volunteers but they were going against the orders of their Bishops.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 31 May 2015 11:40:43 AM
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