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Are we getting value for money

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A report from ACOSS said that of the 1.2 million people claiming negative gearing deductions, more than half are in the top 10 per cent of personal taxpayers, with 30 per cent earning over $300,000.

The reality is that this is a big spending high taxing government full of surprises. The ship has gone full circle and has run aground on the rocks. Talk of GST on fresh food, bracket creep, increase to GST, GST on health, GST on education, etc.

As if we needed further proof that this government governs for the rich. The rich love GST and other consumption taxes because their consumption represents a tiny fraction of their income - unlike the average punter, whose consumption is much higher proportion of income. Add to that the flat rate nature of the GST and you've got a great recipe for wealth distribution up the chain to the fat cats. Everyone knows that the biggest effect they could have on tax revenue is to close the super, negative gearing, family trust and FBT loopholes, but the wealthy and powerful lobbyists who bankroll and support this party are more important to them than the average voter.

Mr Hockey pre election, give me the treasury bench and I will fix the country's woes . Don't need to raise taxes ,don't need new taxes , don't need to touch super , don't need to touch the pensions .

The carbon price watchdog finds repeal savings don't match up to Abbott's promise and power bills have barely declined. If Abbott were a business one suspects the ACCC would have a strong case for misleading and deceptive conduct.
Posted by 579, Thursday, 30 April 2015 4:28:27 PM
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Had capital gains been taxed just like any other income, nobody would have thought of negative gearing.

The problem arises because the heaviest tax in Australia today is inflation - which is artificially induced through the RBA in order to eat away people's life savings, by taxing nominal increases rather than the real increase in the value of savings.

To coarsely and selectively compensate, the capital-gains-tax was made half of the normal tax. It doesn't help ordinary savers who only want to keep what they earned for a rainy day, because they are taxed, even if it's only half the rate, on assets whose value never truly increased in the sense that it could buy them more. Of course it doesn't help those who just keep their money in the bank, where the after-tax interest does not keep up with inflation.

Some people however, found a clever and convoluted loophole to earn money through real-estate manipulations by making use of inflation and this half-tax over assets they never worked for themselves. This is negative-gearing and the way to stop it is to tax all asset-value increases fully just as any other income, after taking out the nominal inflationary increase, which is not a profit.

Regarding GST, it bites even the rich because the moment it was introduced, the Australian dollar went down in value (because it buys less in Australia). Eventually, they or their children/grandchildren would be spending their money on goods and services and even if they spend it outside Australia, they get less for it because the Australian dollar is worth less.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 30 April 2015 6:46:39 PM
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The National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) will certainly make increasing demands on the budget. But as long as we as a society believe it is a good thing, we need to find finances to pay for it. To increase government revenues, we should consider an inheritance tax, remove negative gearing, close down overseas detention centers, introduce a progressive Medicare levy and remove the concessions on capital gains taxes, to name a few.

Hockey now faces a dilemma on myriad fronts. In opposition, he railed against profligacy and continually denounced the previous government's "debt and deficit disaster". That was with net debt at about 12 per cent of GDP.

That's all changed. After the community backlash from last year's budget and with the crash in commodity prices punching a $25 billion hole in annual government revenue, Tony Abbott reckons "a ratio of debt to GDP at about 50 or 60 per cent is a pretty good result".
Posted by 579, Friday, 1 May 2015 11:31:24 AM
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A key industry survey has found the manufacturing sector contracted for a fifth consecutive month in April.
The Australian Industry Group's Performance of Manufacturing Index improved slightly in April to 48 points.
While it is still below the 50-point level that separates expansion from contraction, the pace of contraction eased.

All areas of manufacturing shrank in April.
"Weak local demand continues to weigh heavily on Australian manufacturing," said Ai Group chief executive Innes Willox.
A drop in construction in the mining industry and the closure of the auto industry are taking a toll on the manufacturing sector.

"While there are benefits from strong residential construction activity, low interest rates, and the weaker Australian dollar, these are being outweighed by subdued local business investment in equipment, the ongoing drop in mining construction and the progressive closure of the automotive assembly," Mr Willox added.
Reflecting ongoing weak trading conditions, manufacturers reduced their supplier deliveries and stock levels for a third straight month.
Manufacturing employment fell for a fourth month in April, albeit at a slower pace, up 2.1 points to 49.2.
Mr Willox said another cut in interest rates may help boost demand, but the real impact will come from the Federal Government.

PM&C told its workforce that managers already very busy with the tricky task of putting together a pay deal would have to drop everything in the event of industrial action to administer the strike.
Meanwhile over at Immigration and Customs, bosses say their 13500 officials, who have been waiting 10 months for a pay offer, would be jumping the gun by walking off the job.
Bosses at the soon to be merged departments say talks, on a new enterprise agreement to replace the one that expired in June 2014, are still at an "early stage".
Posted by 579, Friday, 1 May 2015 5:02:55 PM
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The Abbott government will spend up to $11 million of taxpayers' money on its controversial Intergenerational Report advertising campaign starring science broadcaster Karl Kruszelnicki.

"Joe Hockey paid Dr Karl Kruszelnicki to front this campaign – now Dr Karl says he is so concerned about how flawed this report is he wants nothing to do with it. He feels so strongly about ,he has promised to give away his entire fee.

Australia is in the doldrums, we need monetary stimulus now. Manufacturing is sluggish to restart, and no one is spending money.
Posted by 579, Saturday, 2 May 2015 8:37:54 AM
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The truth about Dr Karl distancing himself from the Intergenerational Report is that he was on the butt end of a huge social media backlash; his critics accusing him of selling out. He admitted he couldn't take the Twitter abusive comments.

His tried to make himself look better by saying the report didn't have enough about climate change in it and that he made the adverts without actually reading the report.

As the criticism continued he caved in and said he'd donate any money he earned, but he doesn't know what he was being paid. Yeah, right

Dr Karl is an idiot and I'm happy to see the government has not withdrawn the adverts. The last laugh is on Dr Karl.
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Saturday, 2 May 2015 1:03:58 PM
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