Continued by rehctub
So back to my shop, my girl wanted to work this Saturday and I pay her well above the award, that being $22.40 per hour, plus a 25% loading. So she misses out and I start at 4am and work until 6 pm. Doesn't bother me because you don't become wealthy working 38hours a week. Which brings me to your question of what is a fair wage.

If you are a doctor, engineer, lawyer etc, having done all the training/study and you are good, then yes you can afford a house on a 38 hour week, however, if you are unskilled, then expect to work at least 70-80 hours per week to afford your house. That's how it used to work and should be no different today. Its what I call brawn verses brains.

In fact, most people have so many other bills these days, mobiles, internet etc, so even a 70 hour week would make it hard to get ahead. Unfortunately ive always been a brawn person, but I also happen to love my industry and love working with six or seven 14 hour days a week being the norm for me .Not too many can hack it.

At the end of the day, a fair wage is what an industry can afford to pay, because if the business cant pay the wages (this Saturday being my example) then the worker goes home with $200 odd less in their pay packet, all thanks to big brother, who by the way rarely work on weekends/P holidays. They make the rules for industries they don't work in.

One more comment Aussie boy, the big companies have multi thousand dollar workplace agreements which see many working for normal wages with time in lieu. Something most small employers cant afford to do as they cant afford the agreements.

'morning Aussieboy,

A fair wage to be paid exactly what you are worth, no more no less.

Hi Spin
Thxs for replying
If only you where right it might go alot better then it is atm
example is a TV presenter worth more then a front line soldier NO
is a football player worth more then a Fireman NO
is clerk worth more then a security Guard NO
is a Pollie worth more that anyone Definitely not
These are Just a few examples could list 100 more
We have a serious Problem with behind the scenes deals
Until this corruption of the present system is wiped out I can't see your Idea working
AB

'morning Aussieboy,

Just to assist you with your list of 100 examples, let me finish the sentence for you. A fair wage is paid by those who employ for the value you offer. It serves little purpose to make wages relative to what others can earn rather than what you can earn .

If you offer little value you earn little pay, get it?

Not really
Is it why coles and woolie pay same money
or why all security company's Australia wide pay same money
You get the idea
Its not about how much your worth its about the industry your in and how many back door deals being done
Is this what you ment ?