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Posted by Aidan, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 5:54:56 PM
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ConservativeHippie, measurements show last year was the hottest in record, though not by much.NASA concluded that 2014 was more likelier than any other year to be the hottest on record. See http://mashable.com/2015/01/20/climate-skeptics-warmest-year/
Posted by Aidan, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 6:11:07 PM
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"The BOM are actually pretty good at predicting weather, but no weather forecasters get everything right. It requires a huge amount of data, and there are always things we don't know. That's far less important for climate because they average out."
Well the average climate patterns over the past few million years show that Ice ages are a much bigger threat to humanity than the relatively brief warm periods in-between. Another ice age will come, and that there is no manmade way of stopping. Climate is cyclical and that is exactly why us 'deniers' aren't buying into the whole man-made-global warming hysteria. The warm periods are the only time mankind thrives and the current IPCC projected temperature increase is actually not life threatening, despite the associated warmist fear mongering. Personally I don't think BoM is any better at predicting the weather than the old Farmer's Almanac used to be. Certainly the weather predictions we receive on the nightly news which come from BoM are only about 70% correct at best. Posted by ConservativeHippie, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 6:25:41 PM
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Would you believe the UK bureau has even come out & declared 2014 was not the hottest year on record. These people can't even get together on their lies.
Of course I guess it depends on which record you're using. They have been revising the historical record down on a regular basis now, for 20 years. Only those who have kept the old records have any idea what is going on, but enough have to know the truth. Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 7:11:16 PM
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Yep ConservativeHippie, we've had a bit of rain up here this month, 6 inches, after a fair drought. It's been hot too.
Where the stock were walking in dust, & having a problem finding a pick of grass, it is now up tickling their bellies every where, & over their heads on the river flats. It has been hot too, a bit above average thank god. If we had the same rain in June or July, in the cold, it wouldn't be grass tickling their bellies, it would be mud. Not much grows when it's cold. Do you think that might be the greenies plan? Try to keep it too cold for anything to grow, so we'll all starve to death Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 7:52:28 PM
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Dear Nathan,
Thank you for raising this discussion. The following link may be of interest to you: http://www.skepticalscience.com/Climate-Change-The-40-Year-Delay-Between-Cause-and-Effect.html Prof. Tor Hundloe in his book, "From Buddha to Bono: Seeking Sustainability," tells us that: "In Australia in 2006, leading climatologists with the country's pre-eminent public research organisation, CSIRO, were forbidden by the organisation's management from publicly discussing the implications of climate change. Management was acting on behalf of the government. And Australia is one of the standout countries in terms of human development status. It is not corrupt. Its science is world class. None of this matters. In 2006, the Australian Government's position was to cast doubt on global warming ..." "With the release of the Stern Report on climate change, the Australian Government's position changed - yet the then PM remained half-hearted about a commitment to counter global warming. New ideas, instead of being welcome for the opportunities they opened up for the improvement of the human lot were seen as threats to those who had become comfortable in their ideologies..." "The Bureau of Meterology has been observing and reporting on weather in Australia for over 100 years and CSIRO has been conducting atmospheric and marine research for over 60 years. Both have produced peer reviewed data on temperature, rainfall, sea-levels, ocean acid, and carbon dioxide and methane levels in the atmosphere." http://www.carbonneutral.com.au/climate-change/impacts-on-australia.html Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 8:35:11 PM
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The BOM are actually pretty good at predicting weather, but no weather forecasters get everything right. It requires a huge amount of data, and there are always things we don't know. That's far less important for climate because they average out.