IS MISE...

That's the Army for you ? You've been determined unsuited for clerical work, so they place you in the Orderly Room, naturally ! And a competent clerk, is posted into the world of the 'drop shorts' !

I think the one common denominator that emerges from all this discussion, apropos an individual's suitability to possess F/A's, is whether that person has received bona fide training, as you've consistently stated herein.

And it would seem to me, the principal place to receive such training, is with one of the armed services. Commencing with either the School Cadets, Air Force Cadets or the Naval Cadets, then up through the normal configuration of the military hierarchy ! You simply can't get more thorough or more structured training, from anyone I should think ?

PS:- IS MISE; I still like your correct (numerical) nomenclature of the SMLE; .3zero3 cal. alternatively .3nought3 cal.? What a crazy world we live in ? Still we must be politically correct mustn't we ?

OTB: How do you sleep at night surrounded by your neighbours? Better still, what might you have done that you are so scared of them?

Well mostly it's little old ladies that I care for & who care for me. My closest neighbour is a Sgt of Police. The land owner on the other side is a total nut case & the Police have taken his fire arms off him. He didn't have them registered. The next but one is a Scientist & I help him with his mechanical needs. I'm teaching him & he's coming along OK. The next one works for MSS & is a real shady character as MSS people are. (National Drug Transport.) But I didn't say that. He or his wife don't talk to anyone in the street. If you do he'll sue or something. Everyone else is great. In fact the entire neighbourhood but one are the best.

OTB, you should be as lucky.

Jayb,

LOL, you do have your hands full.

BTW, I agree that some are intent on pursuing a Darwin Award. I just don't want them to set the standard for everyone else.

Have a good one anyhow and the humour was appreciated.

oh sung wu,

Back to the 'big boys' toys'; over the years I had a number of .577/450 Martini-Henry rifles and carbines.
I shot a few of them and they were interesting to play with but I was more interested in the .577 Enfield muzzle loaders.
Black powder was hard to get back in the late 1940s and we often broke up Martini-Henry rounds for the powder, Smith's Sports Store had thousands of them and Mick sold them cheap, nobody really wanted them.
These were mainly the brass foil cases and are now worth a small fortune to collectors.
The full rifle weighed around nine pounds and the carbine about six and a half, the rifle round had a charge of 85 grains of black powder and the carbine (iIrc) 60 grains.
A "joke" on the unsuspecting was to give them a rifle round to fire in a carbine!

Authorities call year-old concealed-carry law a 'non-event'
Sat, 01/03/2015 - 7:00am | Tracy Moss

While gun violence remains a problem across Illinois, the state's year-old concealed-carry law has had no noticeable negative effect, local authorities say.

"For us, it's been a non-event," said Joe Gallo, deputy chief with Champaign police, echoing a similar sentiment as law-enforcement officials in other area counties.

When Illinois became the last state to enact concealed-carry in January, after the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals struck down its long-time ban, police expressed concerns about safety. One of their biggest fears: police interactions with licensed gun carriers during traffic stops.

Champaign County Sheriff Dan Walsh said deputies made one DUI arrest of a concealed-carry permit holder in 2014. The driver was completely cooperative, he said.

Walsh said he told his deputies when the law went into effect to let him know if they ran into any problems.

"I've yet to get one," he said.

"I think people were so concerned about it in the beginning, because there was a lot of media hype and speculation," said Urbana Police Chief Patrick Connolly. "But quite honestly, we have often said the people who are law-abiding and take the time to go to class and register and understand the concept, hopefully, are going to be smart enough to handle the firearm appropriately. So, I don't think this was something out of the ordinary."

Danville police Sgt. Josh Campbell agreed, saying "When you're talking concealed-carry, it's mostly your law-abiding citizens, who don't cause problems anyway."
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2015-01-03/authorities-call-year-old-concealed-carry-law-non-event.html

Good evening to you IS MISE...

Correct me if I'm wrong, the old Martini 577/450's were capable of conversion to more modern calibres ? I'm quite out of my comfort zone here, my knowledge on the earlier 'Big' Martini's is quite limited I'm afraid ? Trouble is your memory fades these days I find ? I must admit I like everything about the old Martini actions, quite strong, and simplicity personified I believe. I'd would've liked to have acquired one converted to .22 RF, a beautiful little gun and as strong as house bricks !

Concerning you second contribution whereupon you were commenting on IL's year old 'concealed carry' laws...? You know as well as I, the normally well trained patently honest and law abiding shooter, could carry around a Bren gun under his coat if he wished, without an ounce of bother, or even giving rise to apprehension of trouble ? It's the criminal, the mentally unbalanced criminal, that gives you the trouble, every time ?

But when a problem does manifest itself, it's the hapless shooter who's both legitimate, and appropriately licenced that consciously bears the full wrath of the law; and who's ultimately the unwitting recipient for the anarchy caused by the ne'er do wells.

Those who choose to aimlessly roam our streets in search for more innocent victims, they too becomes another statistic, in which the government use to further strengthen and mandate the F/A laws ? Whereas, it's the crooks that need be targeted, every time ?