O sung wu,

"....possibly an individual who may be carrying a handgun for the first time ? Even though he may be appropriately trained and licensed etc. ! I believe you know precisely what I mean, IS MISE ?"

Yes, mate, I know exactly what you mean, like a police constable when he first starts on the job.
Why could experienced civilians not be licenced to carry concealed, especially men with military experence, as a 'First Responce' if need be?
Our society is steadily becoming more violent and the police cannot be expected to be everywhere so some other method of defence of the citizens is/will be needed.

Hi O Sung Wu,

Thanks foe the answer, it is exactly what I expected. Arming the citizenry, instead of bring law and order, it would bring more deaths, more unrest in the community, blind Freddie can see that! My understanding with a police officer before getting to the point of having a gun and the power to use it unsupervised is rather a rigorous process. Obviously you can not take a raw recruit, give them a gun, and put them on the street, I would say, a recipe for disaster.

Hi Is Mise

You are the laudable exception, when it comes to carrying a gun. Please point out the last time a private citizen used a firearm which resulted in death of another person, and that private citizen was proven not guilty on the grounds they were defending theirs or someone else's life. It does not happen.

How about you explain Shooter and Fishers Policy.

Establishing the ‘genuine reason’ of Family and Personal Protection for lawful possession of a firearm.

This is not bad English, it is bad policy. Please explain what is a 'genuine reason', and by whom, and by how, is it determined. Of the 23 million people in Australia, how many do you see as having that 'genuine reason'. What is a firearm? Is it an AK47, is it a 'pop' gun?

You put to me the following; "Let us say that a grazier has 5,000 sheep and the country and particularly his property is badly drought affected.
He has to slaughter at least 1,000 of his flock; what's your (Green) humane solution?"

If it is marginal farming, and bad farm management, resulting in the destruction of these poor sheep, then this grazier should be prosecuted for cruelty to animals.

Hi Beach,

You go on about The Greens, in the NSW Parliament, even the Liberals and Nationals, see the two members of The Shooters Party as a couple of unpredictable Wally's, who try and tie ever piece of legislation to their own crazy agenda.

"Why could experienced civilians not be licenced to carry concealed, especially men with military experence, as a 'First Responce' if need be?"

Is Mise, what a load of old cobblers that statement is, if it was not so dangerous it would be laughable. You must have got that one from the 'Two Bobs' What will we call them 'The Brown Shirts'! To add insult its going to be a men's only club.

Don't forget my question above.

Paul,

You still haven't answered my questions, so I'll just put your's on hold until you do.

o sung wu,

On the technical side you might like this:
http://www.forgottenweapons.com/landstad-1900-automatic-revolver/
and browse the site for a few others!!

Is Mise, that could be the ideal weapon for 5 year old's, nothing too dangerous.

I have answered all your questions. Green's policy is not ambiguous. Now can you explain S&F policy what is meant by "genuine reason" and what is a "firearm". Is I hate my mother-in-law a "genuine reason" is a bazooka a firearm. Simple yes or no will do.

Paul,

You still haven't told me how you or the Greens would humanely cull.
So how would you?

Greens' policy on firearms is not only ambiguous in places but downright stupid and apparently vindictive in some instances.

they call for firearms training but then further on call for the abolition of a supervised training period, crazy.