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Hunting - With Firearms or Bows; Is it still a moral pursuit in 2015 ?

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""Media Statement: Firearm licence status of Man Haron Monis
Release Date: Thursday, December 18 2014, 11:22 AM

On the morning of Tuesday 16 December the AFP provided a brief to the Prime Minister regarding Man Haron Monis holding a registered firearms licence.

The AFP has since confirmed that Mr Monis was not a registered firearms licence holder. NSW Police have since confirmed that there is no record of Mr Monis ever having held a firearms licence.

The information provided at the time was based on a manual entry in the National Police Reference System in the category of ‘Firearms licence Holder’."
http://www.afp.gov.au/media-centre/news/afp/2014/december/media-statement-firearm-licence-status-of-man-haron-monis.aspx

Now if the Greens had only checked before jumping in at the deep end
there would not be this embarrassing gaffe.
If they had any sense they would have removed it immediately the Press Release was announced the SAME DAY.
Bit stupid really.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 15 January 2015 1:32:53 PM
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It is even better than I thought,

"SYDNEY SIEGE SHOWS TOUGHER GUN LAWS NEEDED NOW

... violent offences retained a gun licence with the NSW Police Firearms Registry. The Police Commissioner has at all times had the power to suspend the gun licence under s22 of the NSW Firearms Act.< ... parliaments. "It is impossible to understand how the NSW firearms registry did not take immediate action to revoke this man's gun ...

Lauren Moore - 18/12/2014 - 1:54pm"

Note the time, the Media Release, dated and timed at 18 Dec 2014 11:48 am, therefore the ultra competent Greens had a bit over two hours warning that they would be making themselves look like idiots if they went ahead with their own bit of propaganda.

Makes one wonder.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 15 January 2015 1:47:36 PM
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Hi ONTHEBEACH...

A bit off the Topic, however your last sentence in your most recent thread you said in part '...unhappy coincidence that a Sydney chocolate shop later became the site of terrorism...' ? I heard yesterday, the Coroner's hearing is listed to be heard in two weeks time ?

Surely not ! How on earth could they possible assemble all the evidence, convene all the witnesses, examine and collate all the forensic material, and then present a comprehensive set of facts, to a Coroner's Inquiry ? I've had to undertake such duties and you can believe me, there's a heck of a lot to be done, in order for the Coroner to make the necessary findings, and recommendations ?

The Coroner (A Magistrate) does not function like an ordinary Court, some of the rules of evidence don't apply. By it's very nature, the Coroner's function is to make a finding as to the circumstances of what happened, who's involved, determine whether or not, any culpability can be deduced, recommendations to avoid any repetition of the incident, etc., etc. ? Very much an Inquiry.

Furthermore I would imagine many of the witnesses who'd been held captive therein, would still be too emotionally scarred, perhaps too traumatised, to even contemplate furnishing any useful and compendious evidence ? Evidence of a kind, that would satisfy the inquisitorial nature of the Coroner, and/or Counsel assisting the Coroner. Accordingly, there's a great deal of interrogation undertaken during such an Inquiry, and I suspect some of those who were directly involved, even injured, may yet be too ill to attend, let alone provide useful testimony ?

For this reason, I'm wondering if there's some form of political angle or motive, even a 'cover-up' of some sort ? Something's not right here, I just don't know what ?
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 15 January 2015 2:00:11 PM
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o sung wu,

A coincidence I thought.
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 15 January 2015 2:18:38 PM
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Is Mise, did not Tony Abbott inform all and sundry the Mad Man Monis had a gun licence?

http://www.smh.com.au/national/afp-wrongly-briefed-prime-minister-tony-abbott-that-man-haron-monis-had-gun-licence-20141218-129pk4.html

How about a comment on the incompetent Constable Clod at the AFP! Heaven help us, with the mob of spooks and coppers we have in Canberra.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 15 January 2015 5:59:20 PM
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Paul1405,

Is that wrong information still being posted on the Shoebridge and NSW Greens sites without correction and apology to the NSW Commissioner of Police and the NSW police?

If so, why?
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 15 January 2015 8:17:11 PM
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