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Hunting - With Firearms or Bows; Is it still a moral pursuit in 2015 ?
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Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 12:08:03 PM
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Beach, another nice report you have posted, I have no problem with it, all 48 pages.
We NSW Greens must have far more political power that we realise, according to you the NSW Greens are blocking all manor of things, not only in NSW but in the Northern Territory as well. Anyone who does not support extremest right wing views like you do, is seen as a blot on society. Is your party running candidates in March? We will be contesting every seat, plus a full team in the upper house election as well. Here is a link for you, its only 6 pages but I do not expect you to agree with it as it a balanced policy which considers a bit more that just the almighty dollar, your common consideration in all you have had to say on the subject. http://nsw.greens.org.au/sites/nsw.greens.org.au/files/National%20Parks%20and%20Wilderness.pdf The Greens actually have more detailed policy than both Labor and Liberal on all manor of community concerns, and it is out there for all to see. Unlike some, we do not hide anything. Can you provide a link to your parties policy on this or any other issue, other than immigration? I think not! Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 7:45:21 PM
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Paul1405,
With all of those Greens senators with SFA to do in the federal Parliament and all of the resources available to them, for example the Parliamentary Library, that six pages of internally inconsistent, uncosted bumf is shameful. Nice try but no biscuit to the senior public service gnomes in the NPWS who have figured out a way to expand their territory and pyramid. Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 15 January 2015 2:02:37 AM
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Beach, I do not expect you to agree with Greens policy on anything, too progressive for you, that is one of the benefits of a democracy, differing opinions. That was NSW Greens policy I posted, our parliamentary members here do not have access to the Fed's library. With our party, its democracy all the way, the grass roots membership determine policy. As I said with our party its all there for even you to see. How does your party determine policy? Just jot down the thoughts of your 'Fearless Leader'!
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 15 January 2015 6:49:00 AM
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Paul1405,
Not surprised that the NSW 'Watermelon' faction of the Greens are going their own way and are telling the feds what to do with the NPWS. Honestly now, apart from some self-interested public service gnomes who stand to benefit from the huge bureaucracy you propose for the NPWS. who else did the Watermelon faction consult? They (the NSW Greens) are not paying, have no idea of the impact elsewhere in government (and nor do they care), have not consulted with stakeholders and will not be responsible for the implementations or outcomes. In short, the NSW Watermelons are up to their usual tricks, all rhetoric and protest, sensationalism and headlines. That is why the previous 'Dear Leader' of the Greens and hopeful first President of the New World Order, Bob Brown, continually had to intervene with Watermelons like Lee Rhiannon over going their own way - like the picketing of a rather surprised owner of a chocolate shop for a boycott against Israel. <Greens senator Lee Rhiannon stands by Israel boycott THE AUSTRALIAN AUGUST 29, 2011 GREENS senator Lee Rhiannon has again refused to back away from the anti-Israel boycott, divestment and sanctions campaign, despite opposition from her leader, Bob Brown. Her comments came as a group of federal MPs from both sides of politics, including Wayne Swan, gathered in a Max Brenner chocolate shop in Brisbane's Southbank last night to show their opposition to the BDS campaign. .."I see the value of that tactic as a way to promoting Palestinian human rights," Senator Rhiannon told Sky News's Australian Agenda yesterday.. "I am quite aware Bob Brown has a different view on this," she said, but claimed there was growing understanding in the community for the campaign.. One counter-protester, Logan City councillor Hajnal Black, said BDS supporters shouted anti-Semitic slogans. "It's shocking, the sort of things they were saying -- that Jews kill babies, Jews are terrorists . . ." she said.> http://tinyurl.com/ojhqom2 BTW, what a strange and unhappy coincidence that a Sydney chocolate shop later became the site for terrorism. Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 15 January 2015 10:41:37 AM
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Paul,
The NSW Greens are up to their old tricks, taking a line from a person who had similar principles, the late , but not lamented, Dr Josef Gobels they continue the old trick of telling lies until by repetition they hope that they will be believed. The also continue their rather nasty habit of using the anguish of bereaved people to further their own agenda. To wit: "SYDNEY SIEGE SHOWS TOUGHER GUN LAWS NEEDED NOW Thursday, Dec 18th, 2014 Today's revelation that the gunman at the Sydney siege had a gun licence must lead to tougher gun laws across the country. NSW Police Commissioner Scipione must immediately explain how a man charged with such serious violent offences retained a gun licence with the NSW Police Firearms Registry....Greens MP and Justice Spokesperson David Shoebridge said: "NSW has seen four years of inaction on gun control in the face of a growing pro-gun lobby in the NSW and Commonwealth parliaments. "It is impossible to understand how the NSW firearms registry did not take immediate action to revoke this man's gun licence once he was charged with this offence. "Police Commissioner Scipione has at all times had the power to suspend this man's gun licence under s22 of the NSW Firearms Act. "Why didn't Commissioner Scipione move to suspend the gunman's licence given the serious charges he faced? There is no point having a power to keep the community safe if it is not used. "This man was not only charged with accessory to murder and indecent and sexual assault offences but he was also on the terror watch list. However NSW gun laws are so lax that even this does not produce an automatic suspension of his licence." David Shoebridge must have a big mouth to be able to get his foot so far in it. http://nsw.greens.org.au/news/nsw/sydney-siege-shows-tougher-gun-laws-needed-now Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 15 January 2015 1:31:23 PM
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You need to come up with some facts. That is not something the NSW 'Watermelon' Greens are used to doing.
I previously linked to this very solid report,
'Recreational Hunting, an International Perspective'
CRC Sustainable Tourism'
By Johannes Bauer & Jack Giles
WILDLIFE TOURISM RESEARCH REPORT SERIES: NO. 13
Status Assessment of Wildlife Tourism in Australia Series
http://crctourism.com.au/wms/upload/resources/bookshop/RecHunting13_Bauer.pdf
[Previously posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 10 January 2015 9:39:15 PM]
Here is another,
Indigenous Interests in Safari Hunting and Fishing Tourism in The Northern Territory
http://www.crctourism.com.au/wms/upload/resources/bookshop/Safari8_Palmer.pdf
This what the Greens block with their cynical political point scoring.