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The rise of secularism in the Western World.
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Posted by George, Friday, 26 December 2014 9:30:42 AM
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Dear George,
The thoughts are all Rabbi Williamson's. She's had a tremendous influence on me. I discovered her ages ago and she really helped me during a difficult time - health wise, in my life. I found her words inspiring, helpful, and meaningful, at a time when I needed them the most. I continue to learn from her teachings. I highly recommend her writings. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 26 December 2014 10:27:47 AM
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OntheBeach,
People like Suze are part of the problem that we have today. She states in very simplistic terms like the “invisible person” and denigration of her own cultural legacies with her throwaway lines. She probably has something against fairies too. She comes across as all bluster. I have suspicions because of her own bias. As for Foxy, posts confusing contradictions and babble. George has just confirmed this that we never know if it is her own thoughts, or someone else’s. Then any criticism and she goes into victim mode. “The RC church remains a nightmare to some, maybe many.” Think of it this way, like those seeking a remedy for an illness will hear more from the complainers expressing the bad side effects of the medication. As those complaining will always be the loudest. Those without complaint will be the quieter ones, for eg. no complaints so no need to post online. Hence you will hardly hear of the positives. This is what I have realised with my own health issues and seeking answers on line. You will always hear the worse, not the better. Excellent link you posted. The English psychiatrist, Theodore Dalrymple calls modern Spiritualism “psychobabble”. He has plenty to say on the current state of the world especially with his experience in working in prisons around Birmingham, UK. And he is in sync with your link posted. It’s This Bad Spring 2006 http://www.newcriterion.com/articles.cfm/demello-dalrymple-2647 ....Cont Posted by Constance, Friday, 26 December 2014 11:38:20 AM
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Wow folks...we again have something highly caustic under the
guise of "criticism" from Constance. Her incessant vitriolic assault on various contributors of this Forum - have made it hard not to conclude that the lady does have a serious problem. Normal people can have honest disagreements over contentious subjects without the use of vitriol. It's the venom displayed by Constance that is so baffling. Suse has spoken from her own life experiences - but she has never negated anyone elses. And to attack her is not logical. It is abusive. I have spoken on this Forum - about the work of the Saint Vincent de Paul Society (Vinnies), Catholicism at its best. About the Sacred Heart Mission which provides 300 to 400 people with a three-course lunch every day, about Father Chris Riley and his work for youth in Sydney and the list goes on. The positives of religion and the positive work of many religious organisations has been discussed many times on this Forum. I also need to correct another wrong perception made by Constance - I am not a "victim." I am a survivor. There's a difference. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 26 December 2014 1:46:30 PM
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Foxy,
As you are aware, I'm not the only one here on the forum who reacts vehemently to your shaky moralising. I've had enough of your political correctness (the modern bellwether of virtue) and cultural relativism and false optimism. I find it damaging to our society. Ignoring the most salient unpleasant facts makes you implicit to these evils. Playing down of the bleeding obvious and submitting to ubiquitious mind control from you and your fellow comrads won’t do. It is pernicious. Your moralising platitudes I find patronising, insulting and narcissitic.. When you keep on defending the undeserved and blame the plebs for the cause of their angst, I will persist. http://www.city-journal.org/html/16_3_urbanities-terrorists.html It is people like yourself who slowly drive people mad. Entrenched in bureaucracy and love of rules, your total faith in the law believing it solves everything becomes absurd. It didn’t help the people in the Lindt Café at Martin Place, did it? A few quotes from Theodore Dalrymple: “Optimism is the parent of despair, while pessimism allows the mind to accustom itself to the inevitable disappointments of human existence by degrees, just as some drugs induce a state of tolerance. Pessimists, moreover, have the better sense of humour, for they have a livelier apprehension of pretension and absurdity. In a meritocracy, furthermore, those who fail must either indulge in elaborate mental contortions to disguise reality from themselves or sink into a deep melancholy.” Cont.. Posted by Constance, Friday, 26 December 2014 9:09:28 PM
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“In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.” “Never has so much indifference masqueraded as so much compassion; never has there been such wllful blindness. The once pragmatic English have become a nation of sleepwalkers.” “When a population feels alienated from the legal system under which it lives, because that system fails to protect it from real dangers while lending succor and encouragement to every possible kind of wrongdoing, the population may well lose faith in the very idea of law. That is how civilization unravels.” Little Britain http://www.city-journal.org/html/16_2_oh_to_be.html Dalrymple’s father was a Communist so he is very aware of the oppressive effects of the communist propaganda tool of political correctness Posted by Constance, Friday, 26 December 2014 9:13:26 PM
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I am not sure which part of that comes from Marianne Williamson and which from you, but anyhow, thanks for the words of wisdom that we all should abide by.