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Our Shameful Silence on Police Suicide

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Dear Jay,

There could be a multitude of reasons as you
say - however this only confirms the fact that
there should be an investigation into why
this is happening and something should be done
about it. The facts are that there are too many
officers doing it and its happening nation-wide.
The police force is covering up how many officers
kill themselves - and that indicates that something
is very wrong.

http://www.vice.com/read/australias-police-are-covering-up-how-many-officers-kill-themselves
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 11:21:52 AM
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Jay of Melb>>Sonofgloin, you misunderstand me<<

My apologies Jay....yes I agree with your sentiments.

Re Foxy’s opening thread....even the Romans cared for their wounded gladiators....they let them fight to the death, but gave them the finest medical care available when injured......not our governments who are shills for the insurance lobby.
Posted by sonofgloin, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 3:15:43 PM
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FOXY...I've got a really good solution to the myriad of questions concerning police suicide, and law enforcement per se.

It's a given, that there are very few members of society who actually support police in their efforts to maintain law and order ? And there are a few more who look upon them in a more ambivalent way, viewing them more as a necessity then anything else ?

Finally, we have a substantial portion of the community who have no time at all for coppers, perceiving them as being dull-witted and poorly educated jerks. In some cases, even 'psychos' who derive great pleasure from standing-over and menacing those innocent, and otherwise hapless members of the community. Usually by their imposing physicality or the majesty of their uniform, oh I forgot, the gun on their hip !

The answer is relatively simple I submit ? Because the majority of adults have such a low opinion of their police, why bother intervening in their stress issues (it's all a 'put-on' anyway), rather just let them 'stew', as they brought most of it upon themselves ! Besides most coppers are so insensitive and unfeeling, as well as poorly educated, and dull-witted. For these reasons, they wouldn't recognise a helping hand even if it were proffered to them, so why bother ?

Let 'em neck themselves, eat their own gun if that's what they want ? And start recruiting the more academic inclined, better educated law-enforcer's. Potential recruits with much nicer personalities and with much more pleasing dispositions. And just stand back and watch ! Watch all these bad guys run for their lives, particularly when it registers, they've got a couple of 'graduates' on their tail ! So you see FOXY, problem solved !
Posted by o sung wu, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 4:19:25 PM
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the problem with more studies into this tradegy is that just like deaths in custody the outcomes are already determined by academics. Much of academia can't break from the group think mentality and look at real causes for issues. In fact many times social engineers create issues and then demand government money to fix their stupidity.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 5:19:34 PM
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O Sung,
The "problem" is really with the commanders, the culture at the top is at odds with the culture out in the suburbs and has been hijacked by the same rent seeking, Left wing special interest groups who have wrecked the education system and are now working their magic on the ADF.
The education system churns out broken, emotionally fragile individuals, if the Police are recruiting university arts graduates then they need to be prepared for a higher proportion of them to wash out or freak out when faced with stressful situations.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 5:26:45 PM
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Gee Whiz, all that's being suggested is that
more be done to address suicide rates in the force.
To investigate why officers develop these illnesses
and what can be done to counter them. All that's
being asked is for the force to at least recognise
that there is a problem, not cover it, but act on it.

Perhaps the training of police officers needs to be
looked at - is it adequate? Just stop to think for a moment
at how much longer it takes to train teachers, plumbers,
electricians, paramedics, nurses, et cetera. All with
responsibilities that could be said to be less stressful
than those of police officers. It takes a few months only
to train a police officer, about the same time that it takes
to train a soldier. Now compare - who has the greater
responsibility? Do any of the others mentioned commit
suicide or suffer from PTSD on this scale? It is obvious
also that appropriate screening of candidates for the force
is not adequate.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 5:41:45 PM
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