Dear Jay,

I would like to take you seriously,
But to do so would insult your intelligence.

JoM "You're smart, don't you find people of even "average" intelligence insufferable? "
Lol.
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I imagine Foxy does find people like you insufferable.
The feminist movement was thought up originally to deal with men like you...

During a woman's medical examination, the doctor says, "Your heart, lungs, pulse and blood pressure are all fine. Now let me see the part that gets you women into all kinds of trouble."

The woman starts taking off her clothes but is interrupted by the doctor.

"No! No! .... Just stick out your tongue!"

Suse,
Really? I thought Feminism was all about equality, not "dealing with" or eradicating specific groups in society because of the way they think or act? Of course if you say Feminism is a punitive movement based on revenge and retaliation against men then who am I to argue?
Feminism can't exist without patriarchy just as socialism can't work without capitalism to shelter it, equality has to be enforced by law because it's not a natural state of affairs, to enforce laws you need a class of subservient men willing to inflict violence upon others "in the name of the law", you can't have a class of subservient men without patriarchy.

There are those on here who continually bag The Greens for their policies. On the policy concerning women, I believe The Greens have got it right. The policy was formulated with women being the major source of input. it is basically a policy by women for women. The emphases has to be on the practical needs of women in a modern society.
Foxy, Suse and Poirot I would appreciate your comments on our women's policy.

http://greens.org.au/policies/women

Policy? Who drafts that stuff?

Leaving that to one side, precisely what is the worth of it where there is no prospect of the Greens ever forming government, where the Greens refuse to be reasonable in negotiations with others, or live up to their agreements? Even where an agreement is expressed in writing (Gillard and Bob Brown), the Greens had no compunction later in taking their bat and going home, or belting their partner with the said bat.

Julia Gillard, "The Greens Party is fundamentally a party that would prefer to complain about things than get solutions" and "I did always think they (Greens) would revert to type and they have done so"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouJ5NqpOU78

It was the Greens, Milne and other senior women Greens, who carried on from Bob Brown to destabilise Australia's first woman PM and created the conditions for challenges to her leadership.