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Ebola hysteria

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Now that a thing. 3rd World Students who come to Australia & become Doctors. They then stay instead of going home to help their country. They apply for Citizenship & it's granted for some bogus reason.

If these people went home these countries would have plenty of Doctors to deal with these situations. Do they have their Student Fees paid by their country or does Australia pay their Fees? I can't see some bright student just coming up with the money. Not going home to help their own country would be criminal.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 27 October 2014 3:43:21 PM
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Jayb,
No it's mostly graduates from Third World universities who emigrate and sit the exams and do their internships in the West, go to any city casualty department and you see loads of African and Indian doctors and nurses but up the chain your surgeon or specialist is likely to be White or Chinese.
The best idea would be to bring the graduates here on a five year work visa so they can get together enough money to set themselves up with a decent house and business premises in their home country and so they receive the training and make the professional connections to deliver quality care to their countrymen.
They could then be flown out to the West to attend conferences and undertake more training and with the internet available almost everywhere now they could stay in touch with their mentors and benefactors in the West.
Life in these countries is pretty tolerable, even good if you have a bit of money, maybe one of the NGO's could start a "sponsor a doctor/nurse" program, much like the child sponsorship drives.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 27 October 2014 4:03:57 PM
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JoM: The best idea would be to bring the graduates here on a five year work visa so they can get together enough money to set themselves up with a decent house and business premises in their home country.

Yair right. I'd like to see that. nice fantacy scenario but it ain't never gonna happen.

You're telling me that any Doctor, or any graduate, is going to voluntary go back to his own country rather than stay here. Baloney. They all apply to stay, & do.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 27 October 2014 4:51:51 PM
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JoM,

"The best idea would be to bring the graduates here on a five year work visa so they can get together enough money to set themselves up with a decent house and business premises in their home country and so they receive the training and make the professional connections to deliver quality care to their countrymen..."

On subject, and addressing a threat like Ebola, being Western trained and setting up one's own practice in one's home country is pretty much ineffectual if that country hasn't the wherewithal to provide a a decent medical infrastructure.

What kind of "professional connection" would assist a doctor in Liberia who was in the forefront of treating Ebola?

I am fascinated that Hasbeen and Jayb think this virus will burn itself out over there. I certainly, don't think it's an immediate threat to Western countries as it stands, because of our fortunate position, however, there is reason to be concerned - what if this type of virus spreads to other more populous countries outside Africa...India or Indonesia would be good cases in point.

That's why it's wise to attack it vigorously at its source
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 27 October 2014 5:53:48 PM
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Quote, "if that country hasn't the wherewithal to provide a decent medical infrastructure"

That limits, but it doesn't render useless the skills of the trained doctor and nurses. The biggest problem is infection control, not treatment which while important and humane, must in an epidemic be secondary. Arguably more trained nurses to relieve the exhausted and overwhelmed staff, and to ensure that the infection control procedures are followed without exception, would be more beneficial than more doctors, although both are needed.

By way of comparison, Australia while a developed country has been (is) poorly equipped to handle the few (hoped few) Ebola suspects entering this country because of the usual problem of poor (and complicated!) coordination among the various public authorities and layers of government.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 27 October 2014 6:29:24 PM
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otb,

Good points.

Recall my point about those villagers having to wait for days on end for someone to come and remove the old lady who was dying from Ebola. The ambulance that finally turned up was very modern. The staff had good equipment and clothing, etc...but obviously there are just not enough staff, equipment and ambulances on hand to deal with the onslaught, let alone facilities to deal with the sick and dying.

So while that situation remains, the infection will keep spreading. These countries need all the outside help they can get.

Interestingly, however, Nigeria which had a case or cases, kept its borders open to those countries affected so it could effectively monitor people entering. It managed to have no new cases for 42 days, so has been declared Ebola free.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 27 October 2014 6:45:44 PM
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