Is Mise,
I totally agree with David Shoebridge and his call for a statewide ban on handguns. If the state government had taken heed of what David had said at the time (2011) maybe, there would have been a lot less gun violence on Sydney's streets over past three years. Ban the hand guns and increase the penalties for possession. The only 'private' need for hand guns could extend to a few cases of security guards having need for them, but again, they need to be strictly controlled.
Some sections of the gun happy brigade, given half a chance would turn Sydney into some kind of Dodge City! As for calling The Greens a fringe nutter group, are you saying that the over 400,000 people in NSW who voted Green at the last state election are fringe nutters? Or is the handful that voted for The Shooters Party the fringe nutters, David Shoebridge was the 3rd person elected to the LC in 2011 on the first count, Brown for The Shooters fell in at the 308th count in 18th position out of 21.

Beach, your continual slandering of The Green is your right, free speech and all that, but it is a bit rich coming from a bloke who's own extreme right party can't get beyond one half of one percent of popular support. Beach despite all your venting of spleen on The Greens I fully expect our vote to once again increase in 2015, just as it has constantly improved over the past 20 years, I expect we will win an extra seat in the Council and pick up another seat in the Assembly in New South Wales. Will Mr half a percent Jim be running again? LOL.

Paul,

What is David Shoebridge's answer to the illegal manufacture of handguns and submachine guns? Ban machine tools?

To the illegal import of handguns via the Postal service? Ban Australia Post?

To the illegal import of handguns concealed in other things in Containers? Have Customs open and inspect every consignment in every container?

His answer, so far, is to attack law-abiding fellow citizens.

As to the support that the Greens get, then one can only wonder at the mentality of those that so vote, however the Greens are still a fringe group as are the Shooters' and Fishers' Party; however there is a big difference, the MPs of the Greens lie in Parliament whereas the Shooters' MPs do not.

Is Mise there is an old saying, "50,000 Frenchmen can't be wrong" but according to you 400,000 N S Welshmen, or over a million Australians who vote for The Greens can be. Were the people who voted Liberal and Labor in NSW wrong given the amount of CORRUPTION uncovered in those two parties. Where do you rate The Australia First Party with 0.0001% support? Off the planet I would say, but Beach most likely would not agree.

It is a poor defense when trying to justify one wrong, by pointing to other wrongs, as you have attempted to do.

Paul,

"It is a poor defense when trying to justify one wrong, by pointing to other wrongs, as you have attempted to do."

Not so, all that I'm asking is why 'Sandalplank' is attacking the law-abiding whilst seeming to ignore the criminals.
What is his answer to illegal manufacture and import of illegal weapons?

Why not go after the criminals?
I rather think that there is more mileage in attacking the innocent and farmers than there is in attempting something constructive.

p1405: As for calling The Greens a fringe nutter group, are you saying that the over 400,000 people in NSW who voted Green at the last state election are fringe nutters?

Yes, of course. Why do you have to ask. It's a sort of breed of Sheep. As they say on Star Trek, "Following blindly where no sane man would dare to go. There's life in the Universe, Jim, but not as we know it."

p1405: "50,000 Frenchmen can't be wrong"

There's 1.2 Billion moslems in the world, an' their "Wrong." What's you point. Or, as Mrs Murphy said as she saw the parade come past, "There's my Johnny,. He's the only one in step." ;-)

After Port Arthur Australia went tough on guns, and that resulted in the number of gun deaths being halved by 2006. Since 2006 there has been a softening on gun laws and today gun deaths are back to pre 1996 levels. Its time once more to get tough on guns in Australia.

This is a year old but is a good guide as to the state of play with guns at the moment.

http://www.news.com.au/national/is-australia-staring-down-the-barrel-of-a-gun-crisis/story-fncynjr2-1226690018325