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Vale Edward Gough Whitlam

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Once again OTB comes back with more of the same.
No surprises there of course.
Broadcasting the failings instead of the achievements
of a truly great politician and leader and blaming
Gough for what occurred when if OTB had bothered to get
the evidence and facts of the time - he would have
been aware of the sinister intrigue that went on behind
The Dismissal of the Whitlam Government and the results
that followed from it.

"Anatomy of a Coup," would be worth a read for those who
want to find out more of the events of the time. Written by
Stephen Foley and Marshall Wilson. It debunks the myth that
Labor was a victim of its own ineptitude and makes for
compulsive reading for anyone who believes exposure is the
most effective check against the abuse of power.

But enough said. OTB is not interested and won't be fazed by
evidence or bothered at all by the facts.

Enough said.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 25 October 2014 3:53:02 PM
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Neither did Gorton.

When are you going to swoon over him.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 25 October 2014 4:03:49 PM
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Foxy,

The evidence is that leftist and Labor voters fled in their droves from Whitlam and the resulting landslide loss of seats threw Gough and his crew out on their ears.

You and some others here do not accept the democratic decision of the people. You will never accept the decision of the people last federal election either and were laying in the boot before the new PM visited Government House.

That IS true, isn't it? That you and the leftist 'Progressives' are totalitarians who are against democracy because you presume to always know better than the voters who should be in power. That goes with your demands for restrictions on free speech. It is called totalitarianism.
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 25 October 2014 4:42:25 PM
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otb,

"You and some others here do not accept the democratic decision of the people. You will never accept the decision of the people last federal election either and were laying in the boot before the new PM visited Government House."

Oh yes, deary...we accept the decision. we also accept that if the Australian electorate had had one iota of an inkling as to what the Abbott Govt's "real" agenda was...then haw haw, do ye reckon they would have won?

And now - even after Tone's terror hysteria, his MH17 chest-beating, his "shirt-front" rubbish...every stoopid macho stunt he's pulled, the LNP is still around 9% points behind in most polls.

"That IS true, isn't it? That you and the leftist 'Progressives' are totalitarians who are against democracy because you presume to always know better than the voters who should be in power. That goes with your demands for restrictions on free speech. It is called totalitarianism."

Lol!....democracy depends on the prospective govt to tell the "truth" in the lead up to the election...not to deliberately set out to misrepresent their agenda and to dupe the electorate wholesale.

They wouldn't have seen the light of day if they hadn't hidden their agenda.

Now we know - and apart from their incompetence, all they've got is an awkward bumbling clown shouting at clouds, who jumps on the bandwagon of every tragedy, which he greets an as opportunity to pump up his machismo and his electability.

What's that about "free speech"?

We now have laws to shut up journalists if they write something that the govt doesn't like"....and stupidly supported by Labor.

That's what your "we love freedom of speech" govt has actuated.

What a joke....what they really wanted is "freedom to be a bigot" - instead we got "Let's lock up journos who give the game away"
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 25 October 2014 5:04:33 PM
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I'll just add for otb's benefit...

Remember the journalist Peter Greste - locked up in an Egyptian prison with a sentence of 7 years for doing his job.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-23/peter-greste-jailed-in-egypt/5543292

"Australian journalist Peter Greste and two of his Al Jazeera colleagues have been found guilty by an Egyptian court of spreading false news and supporting the blacklisted Muslim Brotherhood.

Greste and Mohamed Fahmy were sentenced to seven years in jail by a judge and Baher Mohamed was sentenced to 10 years. Three other journalists who were tried in absentia were handed 10-year sentences.

Foreign Minister Julie Bishop said the Australian Government was "shocked" by the verdict and "appalled by the severity of it".

Ms Bishop said the Government would be in contact with the new Egyptian government about whether there is any way for it to intervene."

"Appalled by the severity of it" - no less!

If he'd done the same thing in Australia and the presiding govt took a dim view of it, under the wonderful new laws - he'd be up for a possible 10 year sentence.

Ah - the Abbott govt...custodians of our freedoms - Lol!
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 25 October 2014 5:29:30 PM
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Once again, the evidence is that leftist and Labor voters fled in their droves from Whitlam and the resulting landslide loss of seats threw Gough and his crew out on their ears.

The Whitlam government was chaotic and led by an international tourist who loved to strut the world stage, a penchant enjoyed by the other 'Big Australia' egoist who left a Ruddy mess as well, and by Julia Whatsherbloodyname, who went one further throwing away even larger gifts of taxpayers $$ wherever she went internationally (but she was parsimonious where the Brisbane floods were concerned).

It must be that International Socialism of the political 'Progressives', Whitlam, Kevin707Rudd and Ms Julia Whatsherbloodyname (you know, the one with the $2million bungalow in SA), that causes them to spend so much time overseas in the guvvy jet visiting the top celebrity tourist spots of the world and staying in Deluxe/Luxury hotels. Much better than Darwin after Tracy and Brisbane after the floods, where a fleeting look-in is followed by a prompt return to the world tour.

A bigger man than Gough Whitlam would have apologised for his own flaws and mistakes and the poor record of his government.
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 25 October 2014 6:23:24 PM
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