Do women wear high heels to attract men or because other women wear them or is it just'fashion'?

Whatever the reason it seems to be a rather stupid practice.

"According to Dr. Nevins, when you wear high heels - shoes with a heel two inches or higher - your foot slides forward in your shoe, forcing the toes into the unnatural shape of the shoe and redistributing your weight incorrectly. The increased weight on your toes causes your body to tilt forward, and to compensate, you lean backwards and overarch your back, creating a posture that can strain your knees, hips, and lower back. "The change to the position of your spine puts pressure on nerves in the back and can cause sciatica, a condition where nerves become trapped, triggering pain and numbness as far down as the feet," Dr. Nevins adds."
http://www.osteopathic.org/osteopathic-health/about-your-health/health-conditions-library/womens-health/Pages/high-heels.aspx

Should those that self inflict such medical conditions be subsidized in their treatment?

Is Mise "Should those that self inflict such medical conditions be subsidized in their treatment?"

It would be very hard indeed to prove that only the wearing of high heels has caused back problems etc, especially if the woman (or man!) had a job that involved physical work, like nursing.
So I doubt that the health department could ever legally punish women for wearing what they like on their feet.

It would be like refusing to subsidise those with illnesses or diseases caused by smoking, drinking, eating fatty foods, eating sugary foods, working in dangerous occupations, driving cars, doing extreme sports, doing ANY sports where they might get hurt, taking medications with possible side effects, owning dangerous animals......indeed the list is endless.

I guess the health department would save a lot of money if they did stop subsidising all these activities.
In fact, after discounting all the things people might do that could cause health problems, we wouldn't need a health department because there would be no one left to treat!

I have never worn high heel shoes, by the way.....

Is Mise,

"Do women wear high heels to attract men or because other women wear them or is it just'fashion'?"

A combination of both, I should think.

In my teens (in the high-heel chunky cork fashion of the 70's) I bought a pair of whoppers - and then proceeded to trip my way up the main shopping precinct) That experience left an indelible impression and my heels were subsequent lowered. Now I would steer clear of very high heels - especially for general day wear.

There's little more ridiculous than seeing a woman (and heels have shot up high again - so I've seen a few lately) walking with their bums stuck out in a sort of awkward strut, attempting to stay upright and move forward simultaneously in a clop-clop manner - their feet rigidly encased at a weird angle in a pair of high-rise foot coverings.

And some women have a full-on fetish for shoes....I've never been able to work that one out.

I wonder why?

(Still, I have a thing for books and book shops - maybe it's similar:)

Is Mise wrote the question not as a "genuine" question about self inflicted medical conditions. It was written as an anti female rant by someone who feels threatened by modern female freedom and independence. That's obvious by the language used. He'll deny it of course, then a bit later on will launch into more strident anti female attacks.

May may,

You're probably right re "...as an anti female rant..."

However, I fail to understand why you think women tottering uncomfortably around inhigh-rise footwear is a sign of their independence.

It's a sign that they follow fashion slavishly and they know their legs appear more alluring to males if they're stretched awkwardly and their calf muscles are accentuated.

May May < "Is Mise wrote the question not as a "genuine" question about self inflicted medical conditions. It was written as an anti female rant by someone who feels threatened by modern female freedom and independence."

You got it in one May May, but I decided to tackle the taunt from a medical point of view, so he can't really argue.

It's a wonder the other notorious 'good ol' boys' aren't here already, nodding their heads vigorously, scratching their equipment, and beating their chests.
OR.....maybe the other boys actually like women in high heels? :)

Suse, I know 2 men who like men in high heals, but that's another story.

Suseonline, "I have never worn high heel shoes, by the way....."

I knew it, you are large aren't you?

The cruel world of being confined to slip-ons. Any wonder you are forever dumping on men.

It isn't what they have done to you but rather what they didn't. LOL

High heels are a delight on a woman who respects and takes care of herself. Speaking of which, for some years now the sweet young things looking very cute on the beach have not been having it all to themselves. There is an increasing number of women who are well into middle age but certainly don't look it, who eschew the 'comfort' foods and are active, remaining lithe and flexible. Must say though that the women and men who do keep themselves tip-top are apparently middle income or better. Self-respect also seems to be reflected in achieving success in life.

Nothing like avoiding those Boston Buns grrrls and taking some walks. Do try to think positive and don't let that smile crack your face.

From my close observations over time at the 'boatie', high heels go with a sunny disposition, twinkling eyes and a welcoming smile. Add light summer fashion and WOW!

True, some heels could be foolishly high and precarious. They are usually found only on celebs for a short appearance though. However being a blimp, particularly one of those snarling types in a luminous outfit and sandals at the local Maccas, has health consequences too and worse.

Number one contributor to serious health problems - obesity.
Number two " " " " " - bad attitude.

No OTB, wrong again, I am neither tall nor 'large'.
Neither will I describe anything else about myself to you.

I imagine you are short, bald and drive an old mini?
Do you , and your good mate Is Mise, feel inadequate next to women in high heels then, is that the problem?

Onthebeach, could you please supply a link to a photo (neck down of course) of YOU? Hmm, thought not.

Yes high heels may give ladies a posture that is bad for them, but it sure is sexy, if they are slim.

I met my lady in 76, when I came back from the pacific islands. We spent the 77/78 cyclone season in Auckland Creek, Gladstone, on the boat. We would often have a meal at the yacht club.

Being a modern young thing, at that time, she had a pair of those dreadful "wedgey" things, with almost 2" thick cork under the foot, & about 4" or 5" at the heel. They looked & were extremely dangerous.

The walk from the club to the dingy parking area was far from smooth, & the second time she fell off the things walking to the dingy, slightly injuring herself, I decided to take action.

I waited for an ebb tide the next day, found the things, took them up on deck, & launched then, inviting her to wave them goodbye. I can't remember if she cried, but she was close to it, if not.

I don't know if she has ever forgiven me for this contribution to her health & wellbeing, but I know I did the right thing. I did take her shopping for something stylish, but less dangerous.

Strangely she is wearing higher heels today, than she has for years. Being a senior manager in your last few years before retirement is not good for your health it would appear.

"I knew it, you are large aren't you?

The cruel world of being confined to slip-ons. Any wonder you are forever dumping on men."

Lol!.... was waiting for otb's sexist rant...coz he's an expert on the girlie's - or thinks he is.

"High heels are a delight on a woman who respects and takes care of herself. Speaking of which, for some years now the sweet young things looking very cute on the beach have not been having it all to themselves. There is an increasing number of women who are well into middle age but certainly don't look it, who eschew the 'comfort' foods and are active, remaining lithe and flexible. Must say though that the women and men who do keep themselves tip-top are apparently middle income or better. Self-respect also seems to be reflected in achieving success in life."

Gawd!...so "tottering"...I say "tottering" about in very high heels is looking after oneself?

So, having inadvertently stumbled upon OLO's very first (and best) beauty salon.....what would Monsieur otb suggest for Poirot, ensconced in her early fifties, opinionated, 5' 4", size 12...anything to cultivate litheness, flexibility, back problems, bunions?

Suseonline,

I have never met a woman who didn't love her fcuk me shoes to distraction and owned numerous pairs, replaced regularly. Most women want to feel feminine.

You must be one of the MuuMuu set for formal, with trackies and slip-ons for casual and Bingo, with Ugg Boots for winter relaxing.

Any wonder you are so keen on those Muslim tents for women that come in black and blue that as so liberating according to western feminists as to practically be THE icon of feminism.

You GO, Grrrl! All power to those shoulder pads for that MuuMuu.

Hasbeen,

Our marina is concrete paved. The sound of high heels approaching is music to any man's ears. Slip them and anything else they like off before stepping aboard, a flute of chilled sparkling is always waiting.

A gentleman would never disappoint a lady by not discretely carrying her Sperry deckies for her.

Should be 'discreet'.

Methinks the little man doth protest too much, OTB?

Speaking of which, where is your little pal Is Mise, the mastermind of this intellectually challenging thread?
Shouldn't he be here assisting you and Hasbeen to charm the female birds out of the trees as usual....

Only if they themselves are charming Suse, only then.

"You must be one of the MuuMuu set for formal, with trackies and slip-ons for casual and Bingo, with Ugg Boots for winter relaxing.

Any wonder you are so keen on those Muslim tents for women that come in black and blue that as so liberating according to western feminists as to practically be THE icon of feminism.

You GO, Grrrl! All power to those shoulder pads for that MuuMuu."

Gawd, otb....you're a doozy.

The self-appointed white knight and defender of women's honour on OLO...is in reality the most ignorant sexist ol' boy one is likely to run into on this site.

"I have never met a woman who didn't love her fcuk me shoes to distraction and owned numerous pairs, replaced regularly. Most women want to feel feminine."

Yeah...but some of us manage "feminine" without resorting to Imelda Marcos Syndrome.

What's the gig with women tottering about in "stooopid" footwear - because they'd doubt their femininity without it?

Suse, I see onthebeach did NOT supply a photo of himself, as requested by me. Hmm, says it all. Whaddya reckon Suse --- he's short, fat, balding, losing his teeth, covered with age spots? Yes I know Suse, YUK, YUK, YUK. It's usually the ugliest men who are the most defensively sexist. Could you imagine "doing the deed" with that hairy, limping, balding old goat in his budgie smugglers (spew spew), Tony Abbott? I mean, how revolting!

To reply to the OP, practically all ladies - which excludes some here if their postings are any guide - choose their clothing and accessories to suit the occasion, to feel feminine and good in themselves. The emphasis should be put on the last two words "in themselves".

Not all high heels are too high, although a lady - again that excludes the boilersuited rad fembots and frumps (perhaps they are one and the same?) - might choose shoes a bit higher, finer straps and simply exquisite, to complement formal wear and for a special occasion.

For many men the choice of clothing is simple: shorts, longs or damnit, a bag of fruit if forced.

I cannot say I represent sartorial elegance by any means, but (for example) I do own pairs of dress shoes for starters and no, business shoes are not stand-ins for them. I enjoy formal occasions and could not imagine a year where we didn't attend at least two balls. For a meal out of an evening I wear a light suit minimum or at least a nice jacket. Why go to a restaurant where those are not the usual dress expectations? -There would be no sense of occasion and no respect for the lady you escort as well.

What should be complained about are the poorly chosen designs and ill-maintained footpaths and walkways in public areas. Young mothers cannot even wheel a pram on many without wheels being jammed sideways.

Is Mise has been away for the day and he is willing to put up a photo, or rather a link to one, and will do so, some time later today.
Right now it's off to bed.

May May, you have put me off my tea tonight with your Abbott scenario! :)

Too late OTB, your true anti-female self has already been well and truly outed.

Is Mise, anyone can put up a photo of anyone on this forum and say 'this is me'.
Please don't bother....

To Suse, May May and Poirot,

Why bother responding to the imbecilic forum flamer, this Beach person. His opening comment on this topic was, and I quote;

<<Suseonline, "I have never worn high heel shoes, by the way....."
I knew it, you are large aren't you?

This question is nothing to do with the topic and is simple posted to arouse an emotive response.

If Beach was to click on the "rules" button he could read the following.

Forum Rules

Keep responses on topic.
Do not flame.

Of course the talk of "sweet young things looking very cute on the beach" and "I have never met a woman who didn't love her fcuk me shoes" The operative words there are "I have never met a woman" and this guff would be all totally delusional;
"I cannot say I represent sartorial elegance by any means...formal occasions...the balls, I wear a light suit minimum or at least a nice jacket...the restaurant...the boat. Beach, for your own sake, you have to admit its all a fantasy, before its too late!
The imagination from one who most likely dosses in a bed-sit in Redfern, covered in nothing more than his trusty old raincoat and covered in dirty old back copies of 'The Daily Mirror' (page 3 are his beach bunnies), with only the cockroaches for company. Its pitiful when senility sets in. But I have compassion for Beach and I say "Beach, before its too late, please seek help, you certainly need it."

May May, no need to ask Beach for a picture of himself, just 'Google' the words 'homeless man images' and take your pick, Beach could be anyone of them.

Classic.

>> I enjoy formal occasions and could not imagine a year where we didn't attend at least two balls.<<

Balls, onthebeach?

Really? Balls?

>>For a meal out of an evening I wear a light suit minimum or at least a nice jacket. Why go to a restaurant where those are not the usual dress expectations?<<

I can see it now, the sign at the door. "No bathers. No thongs".

The ultimate provincial is our onthebeach. A veritable hick from the sticks.

Not to mention from the Fifties.

Balls? I'd say.

Suse,

This is the genuine me, now I wouldn't try to fool you!

http://aughnanure.tribalpages.com/tpphotos/fullphotos/aughnanure_5140087.jpg

"I cannot say I represent sartorial elegance by any means, but (for example) I do own pairs of dress shoes for starters and no, business shoes are not stand-ins for them. I enjoy formal occasions and could not imagine a year where we didn't attend at least two balls. For a meal out of an evening I wear a light suit minimum or at least a nice jacket. Why go to a restaurant where those are not the usual dress expectations? -There would be no sense of occasion and no respect for the lady you escort as well."

Lol!...

I didn't notice that....what excellent material, otb.

Which brings to mind a book I picked up years ago in an op shop (where curiously I was drawn to the bookshelf - and not the shoes).

It's titled "Manners and Rules of Good Society" by "A Member of the Aristocracy" (1921 - no actual author name:)

I have it in front of me - and - pass the smelling salts, Maud! - it has a chapter on Balls and State Balls!

"Balls are given in town and country by society at large, and these invitation balls include Hunt Balls, Military and Naval Balls, Yeomanry Balls and Territorial Balls, Bachelor's Balls, etc."

But then again...

"A crowded Ball is not always pronounced a good ball by the guests, often the contrary, but then again what is termed a thin ball is open to the accusation of not going off well, and falling rather flat; of not being kept up with spirit [lot's of Gin, one imagines?], and of being considered a stupid ball, and so on."

"A gentleman intending to dance should remove his sword, otherwise he should not do so."

Gentlemen attending State Balls should wear uniform or full Court dress--dress coat, breeches and silk stockings, shoes and buckles; trousers can only be worn as part of a uniform and not with a court dress...."

(First person to make a decent witty aside about "Bachelor's Balls, silk stockings and no trousers" wins the inaugural otb Award for Pretentious Twaddle)

Oh my goodness, it is a red flag, sacrilege, to observe as I did that,

"Number one contributor to serious health problems - obesity.
Number two " " " " " - bad attitude"
[Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 12 October 2014 3:12:08 PM]

Get out of the house you lard @rses, put that KFC in the bin and get the legs going. See here, World Stroke Day,

World Stroke Day, October 29th
http://strokefoundation.com.au/event/world-stroke-day/

An attack on KFC, now I will really be for it! I didn't mention those other takeaways like $5 pizzas and Maccas Big Deals though. Ooops, but now I have and I will be expecting a double, quadruple dose of flaming. Incoming...

To Suseonline who had 'never worn high heels' and spends her days slamming those 'mens', commiserations Dear and do try to limit those carbs. The sugar overdose explains your constant aggro too! LOL

Suse,

You didn't give a medical explanation at all, at best it was statistical or an example of practicality,
I gave a medical example which you chose to ignore.

Here's another of me, I'm the one on the right, taken at a Scottish Ball (never piped well enough to be in a band).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/Flaith/An%20Clann/image0-1-2.jpg

Beach, I would have thought you would be attending them there Balls! in ya military uniform. You know the black one, or is it in bad taste, considering your side lost!
Also, I didn't know formal attire was a requirement when one dines at the 'Mathew Talbot'.

May may, all one could say to you is, my my. this sought of display is exactly what causes the tension between women and men. Get a life!

As for self inflicted harm, where do we draw the line.

I mean, do we charge fa people to see the doctor because they eat too many donuts. Or, what about those who sho total disregard for the likes of slip, slop slap. The list goes on.

Personally, I think any kind of self inflicted harm should not be treated with tax payer dollars, but where do we draw the line and, whle we know smoking can kill, as long as fit and healthy non smokers continue to die at a young age from the likes of heart disease, how can we prove it

Monsieur otb,

"To Suseonline who had 'never worn high heels' and spends her days slamming those 'mens', commiserations Dear and do try to limit those carbs. The sugar overdose explains your constant aggro too! LOL"

I reckon Graham should rescind your beauty parlour license for OLO - you're clearly not suitable to hold such privilege.

Next time you and your good lady are giving your "light suit" and her "strappy heels" an outing - remember these rules:

"Fish should be eaten with a silver fork whenever possible. otherwise with a silver fish knife and fork.

All made dishes such as rissoles and patties, etc. should be eaten with a fork only, and not with a knife and fork.

For sweetbreads and cutlets, etc. a knife and fork are requisite; and, as a matter of course, for poultry , game, etc. (and KFC)

In eating asparagus, a knife and fork should be used, and the points should be cut off and eaten with the fork.

Cucumber should be eaten off the dinner plate, and not off the side plate!

Peas should be eaten with a fork!

(Manners and Rules of Good Society)

But then you know all that.

NB:
"Persons not well received in society, or who have ostracised themselves, have a predilection for public balls, and make every effort to obtain tickets of admission..."

(Just be on the lookout, otb, one never knows what sort of tat is out there attempting to gatecrash these exclusive gatherings.)

Hi there folks...

Mindful of trying to adhere to IS MISE'S topic, and the example he gave of ladies wearing high heels ? Personally I've always been a 'leg man' myself, that is to say I appreciate nice legs on a female. Whether high heels actually accentuate the fine shapeliness of a ladies legs, I suppose it's in the eye of the beholder ? Though personally, I believe they do. Still, what would I know, I'm just an old goat !

I think, by wearing these high 4" heels, it would have to be motivated by two reasons only, I should think ? The first is fashion. And the second, to augment their (already) feminine allure to males. In so doing, could they cause themselves some serious back aliments ? I believe there's a every possibility they could. Therefore if we're to presume, the ladies themselves already appreciate that fact, are they in reality, contributing to their own posture and/or back injuries ?

I guess they are. Though it's not dissimilar to us men, many of us are simply too fat, smoke and drink too much, or knock themselves around, in other ways ? Essentially, it all boils down to the 'foresight of consequences' doesn't it ? Yet we all do some really stupid stuff, secure in the knowledge that it may well prove most harmful to us, but we do it anyway ?

Hi o sung wu, they work for me too.

The first time I saw my youngest, the only one to wear very high heels, in them I was almost shocked. She would have been about 19, & they turned her very athletic legs to sexy, instantly.

Yes by accentuating the muscles in the lower leg it does make them look better, much more toned, but there is another important effect. Ladies feet have grown larger over the years. My father who ran shoe shops for years reckoned by about 3 sizes in 30 years. Those high heals very well disguise these "BIG" feet, adding grace that is just not there in sneakers or thongs.

Having said that, it is not that important. The most fetching my lady has ever looked was in an old pair of sneakers, baggy old shorts & a bikini top, having just taken off my old long sleeved shirt she had been wearing to keep the paint off. We were sitting on the slipway cradle, in the shade of the yacht we had just painted.

She had paint on one ankle, a smear above one knee, & a couple of drops of bright red antifouling paint on her forehead & cheek. She was tanned deeply enough to pass for a Polynesian. She had just let down her long blond hair, bleached almost white by months of sun & salt, & it made an incredible contrast against that tan.

No heels, no matter how high, or expensive ball gown, could have improved on that picture.

"Slippers, Fairy Godmother. I said 'slippers'..." moaned Cinderella, flopping her way to the Charming Ball.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5274864/New-beach-shoes-combine-high-heels-and-flippers.html

'evening to you HASBEEN...

Ah mate you're so 'spot on', whether they wear the most 'fetching' of frocks, or a pair of form fitting jeans with holes in both knees; there's nothing like the perfect female form, to absolutely stun and stupefy me, to the point of me becoming a muddled and incoherent, dribbling old fool !

On the positive side I guess, despite my advancing years, there are some physiological components in my senescent old body, still able to respond in some small way, at the visually alluring female curvature. Ah to be in my twenties again !

Hmm, it seems we have a bunch of dirty old men here, who judge women by their appearance. Of course, these dirty old men totally ignore their own LACK of physical appeal to women. it's basically "one way" sexual attraction. Yes, dirty old men still living in the 18th century. One of them even posted a photo of himself ... gee it was totally YUK: He was old, grey, covered in ugly hair, revolting to look at and was WEARING A SKIRT. Says it all.

You should be pleased May May, hell we could judge you by the beauty of your mind.

If that were the case, we would be running away from you in terror.

"We would be running away" says Hasbeen --- which is EXACTLY what women would like dirty old men to do.

May May,

That is not a skirt, what I'm wearing is the Breacan an Fhéilidh (belted plaid); mine is 60 inches wide and 11 feet in length and in Campbell tartan.

This is me in a skirt, a few years earlier "in the days when our beards were black".
http://aughnanure.tribalpages.com/tpphotos/fullphotos/aughnanure_2261839.jpg

Is Mise,

That's you on the right with the stunning grey beard and flowing locks?

I think you look great in your clan regalia!

Splendid and noble....

May May,

I think you're being a bit hard on the fellas here. After all, we all like to rest our eyes on people for a bit longer if we find them attractive. I'm not averse to checking out an attractive man as he walks by.

I did have a problem with otb attributing qualities to Suse for the mere sake of being odious, however that's a different story.

Is Mise, I'm sure you would get a lot of extended stares from women, and men for that matter, dressed like that marching down the main street of Moonie Ponds.

Hi there MAY MAY...

Firstly, please accept my profound apologies for some of the more intemperate remarks I may have directed at you, on a previous Topic. I don't like employing language perceived as rude towards anyone ? Particularly those of the fairer sex. Though you've probably described me accurately when you suggest, an unattractive, dirty ol' man touché !

However I don't resile for a moment from my professed adoration for the female gender, surely two marriages, and a few girl friends, must corroborate that averment ? Still, perhaps it's highly possible that many of those courageous young ladies that had for so long, valiantly tolerated me and my aberrant behaviour. Were in reality undertaking some covert research on; deviant and perverse old men, who'd unfortunately, lost any sense of grace and propriety, whenever they actively engage in a 'on-line' Forum of some kind ?

I've got shoes for all occasions.
From ballet slippers, to sandals,
to high heels, to sneakers, to leather
boots.
It depends where I'm going.
At work, because I usually stand on my feet
all day and due to the nature of my work
- It wouldn't be practical to wear
high heels. However when going out, I love
dressing up - but again it depends on where
I'm going. Often sandals with a bit of bling
can look glamourous and sexy. Of course high-heels
in an evening dress are a must for more formal
occasions. Then in winter -
there's my favourite high heeled leather boots.
My feet have never suffered from bunions or other foot
problems possibly because I've taken good care of them
and been sensible with my foot wear. I also have an
excellent podiatrist who takes excellent care of my feet.
Possibly that also may help.

Foxy, "I've got shoes for all occasions. From ballet slippers, to sandals, to high heels, to sneakers, to leather boots"

Women should have a range of shoes for all occasions, which is the point.

Here is the man who was responsible for the best working (and other) shoes for women. Speaking for myself, I wore his moccasin style business shoes for many years and there were none better for the red-eye flight in for a full day at work and into the evening and out the following am.

John Karandonis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=602S2ma6TNs

Why is it so impossible for the feckless federal government to bring in more craftsmen and artisans like John Kransonis in lieu of those who hate the democracy, Australian law and freedom we offer?

Foxy, " Then in winter - there's my favourite high heeled leather boots"

The women in my life usually find their quality boots in Melbourne, which is a superb opportunity for me to indulge all with visits to the few remaining hotels in Australia with that often sought after but seldom found warm, convivial atmosphere in winter where we can dress well, meet and chat.

Karandonis

Dear OTB,

There's nothing like a home-made shoe.
But they're becoming rarer these days,
and so expensive. I usually wait until
the sales are on to make my purchases
and I have been lucky a few times. I
love good quality boots and I've been
known to spend a fortune on them and even
on sneakers, which I soon realised was silly.
So I ask for them as Birthday presents when
necessary. I have the excuse that being tall
(6ft in heels) and having large feet my choices
are limited.

Melbourne has some great hotels. The Windsor springs
to mind for its ambience. It's traditional High Tea
was a favourite in the past for celebrations by
both my mother-in-law and my mum.

cont'd ...

Please excuse my typo - I meant to say -
"there's nothing like a hand-made shoe..."
not a home-made shoe.

Foxy,

Sadly, many hotels have become taverns.

This thread reminded me to dig through my gloves. Not much call for them last season. All OK, no sneaky mould or dust anywhere, dry as a bone. My other 'likes' where I have a bit of a collection are scarves and bow ties.

I am running late for an appointment with some other gloves right now, work ones. A small job or few to do.

otb,

"This thread reminded me to dig through my gloves. Not much call for them last season. All OK, no sneaky mould or dust anywhere, dry as a bone. My other 'likes' where I have a bit of a collection are scarves and bow ties."

I believe that is one of the most entertaining posts I've ever seen on OLO...and if you were renowned for satire around here, I'd think it was amusing.

I'm a great fan of P. G. Wodehouse - and your posts are starting to remind me of him....do regale of last season's visit, your collection of crusty great aunts - (and don't forget the unfortunate incident involving the Brown Windsor soup)

: )

This just keeps getting better and better.

>>This thread reminded me to dig through my gloves<<

Gloves? Seriously? Are you having a lend of us, onthebeach, or are you really this superannuated?

Ah, you beat me to it Poirot.

And so much more elegantly put...

Thanks Pericles,

The "Brown Windsor incident" to which I refer was my own little joke for myself.

I once attempted to write some stories in Wodehouse style for my own amusement - coz I like him so much.

Here's the upshot:

"The time had come, I could see, for me to reacquaint myself with Aunt Minnie. She was on my mother's side, and apparently had taken a distinct dislike to me at the tender age of three when I learned my first important lesson in life. That was, never to pee in the silver soup tureen....especially when it contains soup.

I still maintain that she covered up that particular incident with dutiful ardour. To this day those seventy-odd blighters at the Hunt Ball have no idea that the Brown Windsor served that night contained a secret ingredient not usually served as standard fare."

(I'm sure I've got something about gloves in the vault : )

I concur with Pericles' point. "I'm a great fan of P. G. Wodehouse - and your posts are starting to remind me of him....", but

I was reminded more of Evelyn Waugh's 'Decline and Fall', particularly the Honourable Mrs Margot Beste-Chetwynde.

Stylish as ever, onthebeach.

>>Speaking for myself, I wore [Karandonis] moccasin style business shoes for many years<<

http://karandonis.by-trade-shows.com/aboutus.html

"'Karandonis' brand was founded by John Karandonis in Europe in 1946, and has become one of the most famous brands in Australia. Karandonis' factory was relocated to China from Australia in 1995. We are now located in Nanhai, Foshan, Guangdong Province, China. Our factory occupies a total area of 6,000 square meters with four stitching lines and one full shoe production line."

Clearly, you are not the snob about apparel that you pretend to be.

Maybe these will interest you too.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/White-Cotton-Gloves-Formal-Wear-or_1314567099.html

Dear OTB,

Talking about grand hotels...

The next time that you and your family find
yourselves heading towards Melbourne I suggest
that you stop off at Ballarat and check out -
"Craig's Royal Hotel." It's been magnificently
restored to its former glory and you'd all enjoy it
immensely.

Dear Poirot,

Just letting you know that I'm going to take a
break from OLO and this forum. My heart's not
really in it any more. Anyway, Thanks for all
your support - its been great sharing cyber-space
with you.

Cheers.

Speaking of elegant footwear, nothing could compare with that finely crafted and stylish, 'elastic sided' boot, by that acclaimed fashion house 'Baxter' ! Thousands upon thousands of 'flatfooted' coppers surely can't be wrong ? What better boots could one hope for, to exacerbate your falling arches, irritate one's 'bunions' and compound the already painful 'hammer toe', that one tended to develope shortly after joining-up !

There's no doubt about it, the NSW Police do have ways of keeping their members on their (excruciatingly painful) toes ? I suppose there's got to be much, much, more to that beguiling epithet; those 'flatfooted' coppers. Moreover, affectionately referred to as the podiatrist friend ?

Come back & see us some time Foxy lady.

Yo - Foxy...we all get like that sometimes...I usually "take a break" after getting frustrated and chucking a huge wobbly : )

Regarding nice hotels - back in the seventies when I was working at a department store, we'd all go for a drink after work at the Palace Hotel in St Georges Terrace, before Bondy got hold of it and turned the site into the Bond Tower. (kept the facade though)

Anyway, the front lounge was quite exquisite - sort of a throwback to the forties, with plush leather chairs, overlooking the Terrace, etc - a corner bar with a lovely old retainer-type barman who's name was Leon and who welcomed us all with open arms when we trooped in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_Hotel,_Perth

Lovely memories...

Ah FOXY please, just take a bit of a break. I realise my behaviour lately has not been good, and I've already tried to apologise to you for that lapse of good manners.

Perhaps it's me that should take the break, allowing for more cordial discussion to occur, rather than taking some perverse delight in teasing somebody else, for holding opinions dissimilar to my own ? Please reconsider as HASBEEN so graciously put it 'FOXY lady', you'd be missed immeasurably, where I'd be acclaimed should I 'pull the pin', permanently !

@Foxy, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 12:12:55 PM

Thanks for the tip on Craig's. We are about due to re-trace some previous routes too.

@Foxy, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 12:58:29 PM

To take away maybe,
"Spirituality means something different to everyone. For some, it's about participating in organized religion: going to church, synagogue, a mosque, etc. For others, it's more personal: Some people get in touch with their spiritual side through private prayer, yoga, meditation, quiet reflection, or even long walks.

Research shows that even skeptics can't stifle the sense that there is something greater than the concrete world we see."
http://www.psychologytoday.com/basics/spirituality

Recently when a scientist was explaining why science got the previously firm estimate of dark matter in the Milky Way so wrong, he observed that dark matter was akin to being in a room with the lights off: just because you can't see anything, doesn't mean there is nothing there.

Keep well and in all quadrants.

Poirot,

Thank you for the kind words, the flowing locks used to get remarks from women on occasion to the effect that it was wasted on a man, my hair is fairly fine as well.

These days it's not as long, taken at a wedding in Mumbai,India, a year or so ago. The bit of pink ribbon tells one and all that I'm in the bride's party.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/Flaith/An%20Clann/assorted1-4-2011173_zpsf779bf66.jpg

Paul,

Used to get a few looks in Newtown!!
But never any trouble as the 10inch dirk at the hip and the 'skian dubh' in the stocking top send a message.