Wounded Goose,

Flap ! Flap !

Good one. Your posts on this thread have exhibited a genius for diverting discussion down blind alleys. Brilliant ! Some of your posts do degenerate into nothing but insult, with respect, but I suppose when you have nothing to say, say something.

Oh well, back to topic :)

So it seems that sensible people on this thread (i.e. those who more or less agree with me) would support Muslima wearing the nikab, even though it may have, for some, strong intimations of women's oppression and submission.

And that if women wanted to wear the nikab, or even the burka, it's legal to do so in Parliament ? Have I got that right ?

Joe

There are a number of nincompoops on OLO that are so easy to stir up it's a wonder they are able to function in the real world.

With the number of Potential Terrorists wanting to leave Australia to join ISIS is frightening. Why aren't we letting them go instead of keeping them herein our community. The time, money & resources required to monitor these people is horrendous. Australia must let them leave to join ISIS, but they must never be allowed to return.

Australia never had this problem until the influx of moslems. I see the wearing of the Burka is a defiance statement by moslem women. with or without the insistence of their husbands, in support of Radical Islam. Yes, very few moslem women wear the Burka, etc. Are the ones who do, the ones whose husbands are Radicals?

I personally, do find the Burka, etc confronting. Not the Chador, it's fine. You can see the "person" whereas with the full face covered the person becomes a "thing" to Australians. We know there is a "person" under there, but Who, Where & What? A Darlek? Now there's a nasty piece of work with the same outlook as Radical Islam.

Yeah, Loud Goose (otherwise known as the fella who posts off topic whenever it suits him - and calls for BTT whenever he's overwhelmed by opposing argument)....here's Jabber's latest:

"There are a number of nincompoops on OLO that are so easy to stir up it's a wonder they are able to function in the real world."

"I see the wearing of the Burka is a defiance statement by moslem women. with or without the insistence of their husbands, in support of Radical Islam. Yes, very few moslem women wear the Burka, etc. Are the ones who do, the ones whose husbands are Radicals?

I personally, do find the Burka, etc confronting. Not the Chador, it's fine. You can see the "person" whereas with the full face covered the person becomes a "thing" to Australians. We know there is a "person" under there, but Who, Where & What? A Darlek? Now there's a nasty piece of work with the same outlook as Radical Islam."

Lol!..the "burqa"...worn in Afghanistan...and rarely if ever seen in Australia...but let's all get in a tizz over it...because that's what we do when we find a cause to hang our bigotry on.

Thanks for the insightful commentary, Jayb

Cheers

JayB: Page 20, 2nd. Post: Australia didn't have this problem when there were only a few scattered about here & there.

Let me ask these questions;

Did Australia have these problems before the influx of moslems?

Has the influx of moslems added to the coheasivness of Australian life?

Do moslems integrate freely into the Australian way of life?

Does the wearing of the Burka, etc, help or hinder the assimilation of moslems into Australian Culture?

Is it Australians making it hard for moslems to integrate into Australian Culture?

Then, just who is to blame for the problems we are having with moslems in Australia? Australians or moslems.

May may, I too know many Muslim families. Not many personally, but many that I have visited through my community work.

Yes, most are very much like every other families that I visit, however, there have been a few where I have been upset with how they treat their women.

Several women were not 'allowed' to go and see a doctor, because they had 'intimate' health problems that men were not to see or discuss. When I started mentioning the names of female doctors, I was yelled at for 'causing trouble'.
These women were only allowed out if they went out with a male relative.
Two of them never saw a doctor for palliative care.

Yes, there are men like this in other cultures too, but none as paranoid as these guys re letting 'their' women out of their sight.
Thus, I am wary of the men I visit if the women are covered from head to foot.
Yes, I know it is probably rare in this country for the Muslim families to be like the few I met, but I am thinking that the ones who are like this don't have non-Muslim friends.

I would hope that when people emigrate to Australia, they will integrate well enough as to see the benefits of more equality for the treatment of women.

Hi Wounded Goose,

So, like Tony Abbott, you find the nikab confronting ? But it's still legal, for all that. Both you and your new bestie may have to get used to that.

But thank you for - at last ! - saying something about the topic. It's a pity that you say absolutely nothing new, what you think is so brilliantly novel has been written many times on this thread before.

But it gives us all some hope: do you have a single original idea, even in relation to this topic ?

Of course, when you say 'burka', you mean 'nikab' ? That's okay, even that fool of an MP Andrew Leigh keeps using the word 'burka'. I've never seen a woman in a burka. Have you ?

And yes, I find pictures of women in burkas, not confronting, but distressing - that human beings should be reduced, thanks to 'culture', to chattels, confined to the kitchen and the bedroom, to child-rearing and food-provision and cleaning.

Cheers,

Joe