Suseonline, my late sister was a Catholic nun recently deceased, and through her work I befriended at least 50 or so Muslim families in Australia over the past 2 decades. I still regularly see, visit and socialise with 5 of these families. In all that time the vast majority of the females in these families, I would say at least 90%, wear no headgear whatsoever, at any stage. The remaining females wear scarves or various forms of the hijab on occasion, and a remaining miniscule proportion wear headgear all the time when in public. The reality of Islam in Australia as practiced by everyday Aussies, is not the false reality presented by some of the media in order to promote paranoia and thus get more audience, sales and money.

The fact is that the vast majority of Muslim families that are born in Australia, or have been established in Australia for a long time, are no different to similar Catholic, Buddhist, Jewish, Protestant families. In other words, "real" Aussies.

May, May isn't that strange. I too have a number of Muslim friends and neighbors, and yes very few wear the Burqu, in fact none. As many come from South East Asia, Indonesia and Malaysia where head dress for women is different from the Middle East etc. The woman look very nice in their colorful attire.
Yes, Joe I too wonder if Jay of Melbourne and the Jay of Berlin (JayB) are not the one and the same.
As for the proposed JayB 'Muslimpox' at the moment there doesn't seem to be a hell of a lot of support. I'm not sure who on the forum first coined the description the 'Usual Suspects', it might have been me. A loose coalition of like mindless people. You are not seen as one of those 'Usual Suspect' more an independent sitting on the cross benches. The group have their hard liners Jayb being one, with the message being kill, kill, kill. Naturally they have a proliferation of the raving loony types, including the bible bashing brigade, come in Runner!

Paul,

My point was that you might be hard put to find two OLO contributors who agree with each other on everything. Maybe you and James O'Neill and Daffy Duck and the Wounded Goose, but everybody else seems to think for themselves.

May May & Suse,

Yes, I agree with you on this one, that Muslima should be allowed to wear whatever they like in public, in the context of BOTH a culture of submission of women to men AND choice and pride in what they wear. I don't agree with the ban on headgear in France and Belgium, that seemed like sheer spitefulness, and probably a stupid condemning of many Muslima to the home, unable to get out and experience the chaos and buzz of modern society first-hand.

Cheers,

Joe

Loud Goose,

"My point was that you might be hard put to find two OLO contributors who agree with each other on everything. Maybe you and James O'Neill and Daffy Duck and the Wounded Goose, but everybody else seems to think for themselves."

Hahaha!...that's a joke.

The govt and the media join forces to create a domestic "terror emergency" (where none exists)....and lo and behold the reactionaries on OLO come flooding out of their dens with their ACME pitchforks and boiling hot tar.

All ya have to do is stage a "terror raid" with 800 personnel, have it widely publised - arrest some people and have the agencies provide material to the media.

Next - when most of the people are released without charge and one of the two remaining is discharged the following day with a good behaviour bond for an un-terror related charge - you get the media to ignore all that.

The job is done as it's the initial hysteria surrounding the raid that adheres to their psyche.

And, Voila!...all de peeps will be "thinking for themselves".

Mise: I think Jayb's post should be taken with a large pinch of salt!

Someone's thinking. Awww.... No fair. Nothing wrong with a good stir it brings out the worst in narrow minded people, then I get a good laugh. Remember, as my T-shirt says, "You may find it offensive. I find it funny, that's why I'm happier than you."

Yes you are right Mise. I do like to play with people's minds.

Jayb,

"Yes you are right Mise. I do like to play with people's minds."

In that case, it's a shame you have no real wit.

Obviously your post was only so much blather - we understood that. Nevertheless, those sentiments, although over the top, represent your mindset.

You meander around this forum dripping your "rooly clever" bigotry whenever the opportunity arises...and now you appear to be congratulating yourself for your vacuous, fearful, repetitive and narrow-minded garbage.

Well, I suppose someone has to congratulate you...it may as well be yourself.