Was the UN just in resisting the North Korean invasion of South Korea?

My Daewoo Matiz says that it was.

Dear Loudmouth,

Whether a war is just depends on definition. Some just war theorists will maintain any atrocities are justified if the cause is just. Some just war theorists have thought that spreading Christianity or any other religion or ideology is a just cause.

By the foregoing ISIS can maintain they are fighting a just war since the spreading of their brand of Islam is a just cause.

Other just war theorists are more concerned with the conduct of a war. If an army fighting a just war commits atrocities just as slaughtering prisoners than they are no longer fighting a just war.

Most of us on this list probably think our side in WW2 was just. However, the Finns fought on the German's side because they regarded the Soviet acts of aggression against them as unjust. Therefore in their eyes they were fighting a just war. In our eyes we were also fighting a just war. Whether a war is just depends on definition.

Loudmouth,

My point and aim in terms that in using the word 'embedded' was that there are so many elements in our society, that we in the (western world) in particular just assume. That is, that if it is good for us, then it must be good for everyone and everything else.

But what we don't see are the victims, and what they go through. War and violence is something we don't see because it is in so many ways 'invisible' - out of sight, out of mind.

Unless of course we were to face a war in Australia, which would not be tolerated - as it is not 'embedded' here or accepted by others - as Australia would not see it good for any reason.

People are trying to do things in a non violent format in this day and age to get change. http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/02/16/xenophon-awaits-deportation-malaysia

However when trying to do this, they are attacked using patronising comments from some on the site: "The Xenophon Show' is simply for publicity, now that the election has been called, free air time for an independent which otherwise would have had to dig out from his own pocket."

These types of cheap lines, also get thrown at our current prime minister, and at our two previous Labor prime ministers - wasting time when we can be doing more in so many areas including international affairs.

david f, "There is a great deal of violence embedded in this society. Our police and our armed forces are trained in the use of violence."

They are there to keep the peace. Without them there would be violence that would become embedded fast.

Number of Americans killed in the Korean War: 36,000
Number of Americans wounded in the Korean War: 105,000
Number of South Koreans killed in the Korean War: 415,000
Number of South Koreans wounded in the Korean War: 429,000
Estimated number of Chinese and North Koreans killed in the Korean War: 1,500,000

Was the UN just in resisting the North Korean invasion of South Korea?

My Daewoo Matiz says that it was.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 26 September 2014 11:17:26 PM

Is Mise I'm sure you don't mean that. Although there are many in the developed world who believe the deaths of millions in the third world is inconsequential, and even necessary as long as their comfortable lifestyle is maintained. others are simply ambivalent to the carnage, for very much the same reasons.

David/Nathan,

Mealy-mouthed bullsh!t.

What sort of fascist apologist would ever suggest that ISIS is fighting a just war, that they have been aggressed against ?

Yes, of course, there are theorists and theorists and you can use them all you like to justify your apologetics.

But the fact remains that, once a non-aggressive country is attacked, it has the right, really the duty, to defend itself, to protect its inhabitants from further aggression.

Do you want to play around with that ?

Joe