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Why is war always seen as the solution? What will you be doing for the International Day of Peace?
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Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 25 September 2014 8:13:06 AM
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As one who was involved in the Vietnam War protests of the 1970's. I can say I never considered those sent to fight there, be they regular army, or conscripts, were in anyway responsible for the war, that was the responsibility of polititions on our side. It was always some kind of phony civil war, between a unpopular and corrupt regime in the south, propped up by the US, and the popular nationalists led by Ho Chi Minh. It had its origins in post WWII and the ensuing cold war. Like so many of these wars, in which the US involves themselves, the motives are about power and influence but cloaked in the altruistic motives of freedom and democracy. You can't sell those real motives, at home but you can sell F&D. The problem with Vietnam was the public at first, like most wars were fully supportive, but as it dragged on with no clear objectives, and no resolution in sight, only a mounting death toll, popular support evaporated. In 1965 only 25% of Americans opposed the war, by 1973 that figure had grown to about 60%. The war resulted in the deaths of over 58,000 American, 500 Australians and between 1 and 3 million Vietnamese. Who were the war criminals, all wars have their criminals, so who were the Vietnam War criminals?
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 25 September 2014 8:21:56 AM
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davidf,
You ask, "If we want to have peace we must focus on what leads us into war and prevent it from happening where it can be avoided. How did the Vietnamese War happen? Did it have to happen? Could it have been avoided?" It could have been avoided if we, the Allies, had stuck by our Vietnamese friends in the war against the Japanese, but we chose to take Churchill's advice and return the Colonial powers to their pre-war positions of authority and in this instance it was the French to power in Vietnam. That's how it happened, it didn't have to happen and it could have ben avoided. Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 25 September 2014 9:50:32 AM
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Dear Is Mise,
I agree. Posted by david f, Thursday, 25 September 2014 10:17:43 AM
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Dear David F.,
My apologies for returning to the subject of Jane Fonda. However I do feel that the lady has been greatly maligned by so many Right-Wing Warriors, blogs, and internet sites, magazines et cetera. So many false accusations have surfaced and been believed - especially from conservative organisations who feel they need to combat the "radical left." Here are two links that may be of interest to those who really want to know the truth, rather than the hype of that hisotrical period: http://www.janefonda.com/the-truth-about-my-trip-to-hanoi/ http://www.Irb.co.uk/v27/n22/rick-perlstein/operation-barbarella Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 25 September 2014 11:11:12 AM
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Gosh, you mean that Jane Fonda's apology on the Barbara Walters Show 1988 for her 'thoughtless and careless' behaviour was entirely unnecessary?
Jane Fonda is due some sympathy for the family environment she grew up in. However she is responsible for her decisions as an adult and despite the excellent advice and counsel that was available to her. Re-writing history is very popular among the leftists, most of whom would never see the hypocrisy and cruel affront of Jane Fonda years later wearing a super-large 'Vietnam Veterans Against War' badge. She was worried about the troops, yeah, right! Amazing what wealthy women celebrities with beautiful evenly balanced features and a super body can get away with. Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 25 September 2014 12:48:25 PM
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Another day, another beheading. But it couldn't have been done by Muslims because Islam is a religion of peace. At least, some bits of it.
So what were the al-Qa'ida and ISIS people doing on September 21, the International Day of Peace ? i.e. last Sunday ?
After their Peace parade, I think they went back to attacking Kurdish villages in Syria, killing men and enslaving women, driving 130,000 desperate people over the Turkish border.
All in a day's work :)
Joe