Suse,

"Is Mise, there will always be false accusations for crimes of course, but I think we can safely assume that there are far more rape cases brought to court that were unable to be 'proved' , and the rapist got away with it, than the other way round."

But that case was not a false accusation at all, it was an accusation that was true under WA law, he was having consensual sexual intercourse with her when she told him to stop, he didn't instantly comply so was found guilty of rape.

So may we accept the fact that all rape is not violent, at least in WA, if not the rest of Australia?

OTB, I would prefer to be considered progressive, than oppressive like yourself.

Did I or did I not say I would prefer to be able to carry a pepper spray, but that I realise it is not legal?
You really are grasping at straws again aren't you?

Is Mise, I believe that guy was let off the charge?
So obviously it wasn't rape according to the law, so no violence was involved.

You guys are just looking to drag out this thread now, but I can see it is dying.
See you all on another thread.

Suseonline,

As I said earlier,

<Feminist Suseonline and 'I-never-called-myself-a-feminist' Poirot have set the clock back a very long time, with their insistence that rape always involves violence.

Minor details like lack of consent are an irrelevancy to Suseonline and Poirot, "Show evidence of violence or get out!".

Any wonder victims are reticent to report rape and other sexual offences committed against them, especially where children are involved.>

Suse,

"Is Mise, I believe that guy was let off the charge?
So obviously it wasn't rape according to the law, so no violence was involved."

False belief; he was convicted and did time, he was later released on appeal, however that doesn't change the law under which he was convicted.

Note this: "25. Sexual Offences....The offence includes the continuation of sexual intercourse after penetration inorder to address cases where consent has subsequently been withdrawn."
http://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/25.%20Sexual%20Offences/%E2%80%98rape%E2%80%99-penetrative-sexual-offence

May we now take it that all rapes do not include violence or the apprehension of violence and may also include consent of the 'victim'?

"Feminist Suseonline and 'I-never-called-myself-a-feminist' Poirot have set the clock back a very long time, with their insistence that rape always involves violence."

Lol!....here goes 'I-make-blanket-statements-and-can't-back-them-up-with-evidence' otb.

Cough up the posts of Poirot claiming to be a feminist, onthebackfoot.

Yer all wind and water, deary

Poirot,

Anything to divert attention away from your reactionary and callous insistence that rape always involves violence.

You are rooted in the 1920s and that makes all of the difference. That is unfortunate for the rape victims you would again require to prove the existence of violence resisted by them, or forget lodging the complaint.

Of course you can be whatever you want to be and your preference in your respect has already been acknowledged, viz.,'I-never-called-myself-a-feminist' Poirot. No-one could say better than that (to misquote Arthur from The Minder). It can't all be about you and your ego, however needy you always are for the limelight.