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Abbott's Dogs of War.

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Foxy,

As ISIL is happily killing thousands, a small contingent of warplanes can halt their killing spree with little to no risk to Aus or the US, with the added bonus that potential ISIL serial killer recruits see the beheading business as somewhat insecure.

The alternative is watching people dying and saying "sh@% happens" like the callous greens when thousands of asylum seekers died at sea.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 14 September 2014 6:08:12 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

I thought it was our PM, Tony Abbott who used the
line, "Sh@t Happens," commenting on the death of
Lance Corporal Jared MacKinny who was shot dead in
a battle with Taliban insurgents. Channel 7 has
broadcast footage of Mr Abbott discussing the
incident with US Commander James Creighton.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 14 September 2014 8:36:17 PM
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Tony Abbott has been casting about with apparent haste for something - anything - to prove his statesmanship.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/fools-rush-in-tony-abbott-joins-a-war-without-definition-20140914-10gtib.html

"Fools rush in: Tony Abbott joins a war without definition"

"The smart thing for Western leaders in the wake of John Kerry's session with Arab leaders in Jeddah on Thursday last, would have been to bide their time. And it would have been smart too to bide their time a bit more after Sunday's grim reports of another Westerner beheaded by these crazed thugs who strut as Islamic freedom fighters in the deserts of Syria and Iraq.

But Tony Abbott leapt straight in – committing 600 Australian military personnel and more aircraft to the conflict, thereby giving the Arab leaders good reason to believe that if they sit on their hands for long enough, the West will fight their war for them."

"Even as Abbott made his announcement in Darwin, the US Secretary of State was trailing his coat-tails in Cairo, making little headway with pleas for assistance from a murderous military regime that will shoot its own people, but seemingly dares not volunteer to face the so-called Islamic State on the battlefields of Syria and Iraq."

"Oddly, the Prime Minister warned Australians to prepare for a fight that might last "months rather than weeks, perhaps many, many months indeed…" Seems he's in as much of a hurry to get into this war, as he seemingly thinks he will get out of it.

It's not clear why. This "we must do something right now" response is likely to create a bigger mess than already exists in the region. Consider: the death of 200,000 locals in Syria failed to rouse much of a reaction in the West; but the deaths of two Americans – and now a Briton – has raised a crescendo for international war when it might have made more sense to tackle regional politicking and feuding first."

(Tellingly, the great ally of the West, Saudi Arabia, has been lopping off heads with gusto lately - 23 in August)
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 14 September 2014 8:49:54 PM
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Naturally Abbott will be itching to get Aussie troops on the ground, In an attempt to cover himself in glory as the leader of a middle ranking world power. Abbott see's himself as a smaller version of George W Bush, call him Junior Bush. Abbott hopes to one day emulate his American hero and deliver his our version of Bush's "Mission Accomplished in Iraq" speech which was trotted out May 1st 2003 on the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln. Australia does not have an aircraft carrier, or battleship for that matter, Abbott might have to make do with something a little less salubrious, a leaky dinghy may have to make do.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 14 September 2014 8:56:25 PM
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Foxy, Shadow is very good at turning what the Liberals do onto The Greens.
Form Shadows bible 'The Daily Telegraph'

OPPOSITION Leader Tony Abbott has been forced to defend saying "s... happens" while talking about the death of an Australian soldier in Afghanistan.
Channel 7 tonight broadcast footage of the Coalition leader being briefed on the death of Lance Corporal Jared McKinney in Oruzgan in August last year.
Speaking to an American Corporal James Creighton under fire for alleged lack of support for Australian troops in the firefight, Mr Abbott replied: “It’s pretty obvious that um ... well, s--- happens doesn’t it?”

Judging by the above its clear Abbott has nothing but contempt for the lives of Australian soldiers, totally expendable.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 14 September 2014 9:09:16 PM
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I think that the less the greens know about any situation, they more they whinge.

Both BS and TA have been given full security briefings and declare that an intervention is required both to save lives in Syria and Iraq, and to reduce the risk to Australia of home grown terrorists. Motor mouth Milne, who has nothing to go on other than the drivel in the New Matilda etc, pronounces that in her feeble opinion that action to degrade the ISIS forces will increase the risk to Australia.

Others that think leaving ISIS alone is a serious enough security risk to contribute:
US Democrats and Republicans,
UK Labour party and Conservatives,
Nato,
Saudi Arabia,
Egypt,
ETC.

Callous Christine Milne, and Sarah Heartless Young, both made it clear that they have nothing but contempt for the lives of Asylum seekers and soldiers, totally expendable.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 15 September 2014 12:44:12 PM
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