In order to have a well reasoned, intelligent
discussion about feminism we need to try to avoid
generalisations, sweeping statements, and arguments
on an emotional level. Feminism
is not - one size fits all approach. Its complexity
means that each individual has to find its
meaning and relevance in their own lives.

Feminists do not come from a single group or are
defined in terms of age, colour, religion, or socio-
economic status.

It would be great to address the attitudes and the
limitations that exist for both genders.

Hey Fox-Lady, how about starting that dialogue by responding rationally and honestly to my points?
You seem to be great at "motherhood statements" yet you avoid any discussion of the situation as I propound it.
Get down to the nitty-gritty, please?

Al Bundy started an organization called "No Ma'am".............the chicks won...............

So the fact that the fourth wave idealogues are overwhelmingly Jewish or Anglo Saxon women from the U.K and U.S.A is irrelevant then Foxy?
Feminists don't really come in all shapes, sizes and colours, in the Third World they're almost all women's auxilliaries to male dominated Marxist Leninist parties.

I'll give you some more examples.
Angela Gossow the lead singer of metal band Arch Enemy earned the respect and admiration of her fans in a male dominated field through her hard work, talent and perseverance, this is why she was able to pull crowds of 10,000 in staid, patriarchal Japan. She's an anarchist and presumably calls herself a Feminist but she puts her money where her mouth is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KuvVYnklhM

Anita Sarkeesian is a Feminist parasite and rent seeker in a male dominated field, she has no talent, could never write or programme a video game yet she seeks to earn a living from creating and propagating bogus controversies surrounding the gaming industry and it's online community:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6p5AZp7r_Q

Who is more deserving of our respect?
Which of these women represents the true face of ideological Feminism and which embodies it's spirit?

G'dayBruce,

"Foxy STILL hasn't responded to my questions and assertions, one can't help but wonder, why not?
Perhaps like most feminists, unpleasant truths are anathema and best ignored, or the source decried as either brainless or patriarchal?
Using ridiculous comparisons to doctors is just that, ridiculous, there is no possible comparison to be made, that's just obfuscation, another tactic much used by feminists when confronted by the real world."

Perhaps she doesn't like your tone?

It's certainly a mystery why she wouldn't clamour for the opportunity to listen with baited breath to your braggadocio - and your critique of all things feminist.

No doubt you're a tad frustrated that she hasn't reacted to your most charming style.

Perhaps she's got better things to do?

Heh, as if sent by providence some particularly egregious Feminist claptrap, a group of clever men come up with a clever personal security product for women and the author of the article still has to suggest that rather than women taking control of their person on a night out men need to "you know, not rape":

http://www.dailylife.com.au/dl-people/a-team-of-college-students-have-invented-a-nail-polish-that-can-detect-daterape-drugs-20140826-3ebh4.html
Got it girls? Slip on the hot pants and halter top, tease up your hair and get stuck into the tequila because it's up to guys to decide if you're sexually available or not and heaven forbid that you should have to be bothered with such things as making sure your drink isn't spiked.
Gee, professional athletes are held personally responsible for everything they ingest, their health and future prospects depend upon it, maybe holding young women to the same standard is a better way to deal with drink spiking than education programs for rapists, because we know that it's really only hardcore criminals and serial rapists who spike girls drinks.