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The “moderate Muslim,” is there such a thing?

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For those who object to "New Matilda,"
links - all I can do is suggest that
you actually read the articles before
judging. Here is another one that presents
a rather balanced view (in my opinion) of the situation:

http://newmatilda.com/2014/08/14/supporting-palestinian-cause-also-means-standing-against-anti-semitism
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 15 August 2014 10:13:53 AM
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"Yes. But some sides (Hamas or ISIS)deliberately seek to produce atrocities

Or, seek to use their subjects as shields(Hamas or ISIS) so they can then spruik the pictures of the deaths and injuries for propaganda purposes to impress naive Lefties (Poirot & Paul)"

Or...alternatively...SPQR, just parrots the Israeli spiel line re: Hamas.

So while the UN communicates 17 times to the IDF the exact coordinates of the "designated safe area school"...the IDF chooses to bomb it anyway.

And while the UN communicates 33 times to the IDF the exact coordinates of the "UN designated safe hospital area" the IDF decides to bomb the civilians cowering there...

Ho hum...SPQR blames Hamas for that war crime...which even the US described as "disgraceful".

No empathy for slaughtered kiddies?
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 15 August 2014 10:16:10 AM
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Bazz,

"That is easy Piorot, when the moslems stop firing rockets into Israel
and building tunnels into Israel then it will all stop."

Oh yes, it's all so simple isn't it....

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/18/opinion/gaza-and-israel-the-road-to-war-paved-by-the-west.html?_r=1

"Seeing a region swept by popular protests against leaders who couldn’t provide for their citizens’ basic needs, Hamas opted to give up official control of Gaza rather than risk being overthrown. Despite having won the last elections, in 2006, Hamas decided to transfer formal authority to the Palestinian leadership in Ramallah. That decision led to a reconciliation agreement between Hamas and the Palestine Liberation Organization, on terms set almost entirely by the P.L.O. chairman and Palestinian Authority president, Mahmoud Abbas.

Israel immediately sought to undermine the reconciliation agreement by preventing Hamas leaders and Gaza residents from obtaining the two most essential benefits of the deal: the payment of salaries to 43,000 civil servants who worked for the Hamas government and continue to administer Gaza under the new one, and the easing of the suffocating border closures imposed by Israel and Egypt that bar most Gazans’ passage to the outside world.

Yet, in many ways, the reconciliation government could have served Israel’s interests. It offered Hamas’s political adversaries a foothold in Gaza; it was formed without a single Hamas member; it retained the same Ramallah-based prime minister, deputy prime ministers, finance minister and foreign minister; and, most important, it pledged to comply with the three conditions for Western aid long demanded by America and its European allies: nonviolence, adherence to past agreements and recognition of Israel."
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 15 August 2014 10:37:25 AM
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sonofgloin, one, is ome too many. Forget the 150, or 1500 because just one extremist living in our country is unacceptable.

yvonne, Rehctub here, I don't have an agenda to rid the world of religion, rather, my concerns are this religion, in our country, that's it.

Poirot, whether my terminology is wrong, or not, my point does not change. So long as the religion continues to harbor violence, then it has no place here and we should remove it from our country.
Posted by rehctub, Friday, 15 August 2014 11:36:30 AM
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Poirot,

<<So while the UN communicates 17 times to the IDF the exact coordinates of the "designated safe area school"...the IDF chooses to bomb it anyway>>

Oy Poirot, that wasn't one of these schools was it by any chance?

<< the UN has made three separate discoveries of weapons caches in its [Gazan] schools>>
[And the source is The/your Guardian by the way]
Posted by SPQR, Friday, 15 August 2014 11:43:37 AM
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There could have been a settlement a long time ago if Hamas had changed
it charter to acknowledge the existence of Israel.
While ever it insists that Israel must be demolished there is no hope
of any sort of a settlement.

Richard the Lionheart could not get an agreement either.
So whats new ?
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 15 August 2014 2:45:52 PM
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