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Gammy - Surrogacy and IVF should be shut down

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Dear Nathan,

Child Protection agencies are looking into this
matter and have already contacted the couple in
WA. Also Minister Julie Bishop asked her Department
to work with the Attorney General's office and
Immigration Departments to come up with a
Federal Government response to the case of baby
Gammy.

Apparently the three Departments are considering what
response the Australian Government should provide to
this tragic situation. As Minister Bishop made quite
clear - "We're looking at it from every angle in terms
of Foreign Affairs, Immigration and the Attorney General's
office."

They are looking not only of course at baby Gammy but the
broader issues relating to International Commercial
Surrogacy. The Minister is being very thorough and probably
also sees that the problem is as Tania Plibersek stated -
"unscrupulous organisations overseas -
that go into the business of babies to make a profit."
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 11 August 2014 2:40:34 PM
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Foxy, ".. the problem is as Tania Plibersek stated.."

Would that be the same Tania Plibersek who was a senior minister and founding member of the Handbag Hit Squad under ex-PM Julia Whatshername? Y'know, the 'Real' Julia, the world's greatest PM and expert on sexism, misogyny and all things womyn? -Not to mention that Julia is your pin-up Grrrl as well.

So yeah, do tell us exactly what Tania, Julia and their Greens side-kicks did about overseas surrogacy, or even domestic surrogacy in the six years they were at the helm? Not rhetoric, list the practical achievements, since the said Julia was forever overseas and giving away taxpayers' money at the same time and was was concerned about women and not just the leftist educated middle class ones who get what they want anyway, including IVF.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 11 August 2014 5:16:05 PM
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otb,

I really can't help you Sir.

You need to seek professional help for
your medical condition. It's now appears
to be getting serious - as you tend to now view
everything from a jaundiced point of view.
Watever is eating you must be suffering terribly.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 11 August 2014 6:47:18 PM
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Foxy,

You are a political partisan, a trenchant critic of the present federal government, having refused to accept the public's act of democracy in installing a new government in Canberra.

My concern as always is that the public, and we are all taxpayers in one way or another, get value for money from the $$ taken away from us in the plethora of taxes and charges of government.

You have a lot of gall to quote Tania Plibersek or any of the previous administration in this. You have been asked to list what practical measures the Ruud and Gillard/Greens government took on surrogacy. Your snipe at me is your usual defence.

OK, so please list those initiatives by Plibersek and PM Julia in their six years at the helm.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 12:11:17 AM
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otb,

I repeat Sir, you have a serious medical
condition and need to get professional
help.

You have a problem.

You make accusations of
bias while yourself using terms such as -
"Handbag Hit Squad," "Julia Whatshername"
"Julia pin-up Grrrl," "Ruud" "Watermelon
Greens," and many other derogatory terms.

In this discussion the focus is what the
current government is doing about the issues
involved. And that question has been dealt
with by Minister Julie Bishop in a positive
light as I demonstrated in my previous post.
Your attacks on the previous government are
as always simply churlish and can't be taken
seriosuly.

You Sir, need help with the problem you're
obviously struggling to deal with.

Get help.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 11:31:35 AM
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Foxy,

It is your dogmatism.

It is not funny that you apply such labels to anyone with the temerity to disagree with you, or even question your orthodoxy.

You brought Tania Plibersek into the discussion. It is perfectly reasonable to demand of you as a partisan supporter of the previous Gillard/Greens government to list what the previous Labor government achieved on surrogacy during its six years on the government benches.

Easy question, but you dodge and weave.

[Previously posted elsewhere by mistake]
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 11:55:08 AM
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