Dear RObert,

Because of the word limit, I didn't get a chance to
comment on your writing about the various disadvantages
faced by men in their earlier traditional roles.

To a man, the main advantage was that he had
relatively greater access to wealth, power and
prestige.
He could earn more money, control more of his environment,
and experience a range of career and other opportunities
that were beyond the reach of most women.

The main disadvantage was the tremendous stress associated
with a life of competition, repressed feelings, and
fear of failure.
The statistics tell the story. Compared to women, men had
a higher suicide rate, higher rate for severe mental
disorders, and a much higher rate of alcoholism.

Men committed a higher percentage of all serious crimes and
constituted a higher percentage of prison inmates.
They were also far more likely than women to suffer
stress-related diseases such as ulcers, hypertension,
and asthma. The bleakest statistic is life expectancy:
men die seven years sooner than the average female.

It is hard at times to believe that this catalogue of woes
applies to the group that is supposed to be historically
in the upper stratum in sexual stratification.

We need to address the attitudes and the limitations of
gender - that they cease to exist for both groups.
Male and female.

adds nothing constructive
Foxy,
This reply exposes your hypocrisy. Whenever someone suggested constructive & practical & realistic & fair proposals you were the one denouncing them. So please, make up your mind.

Well said Foxy.
We do still gave a long way to go for both genders to feel they fit in, with the added stresses in this modern world.

No matter what women still have to achieve to gain true equality in Australia, most would not want to achieve this goal at the expense of men's emotional or physical well-being. We all love our sons and other male relatives.

The awful toll on families whose husband/fathers (and some mothers) are working in a fly in fly out job in WA's North is a case in question.

Individual...you still have nothing much to add to this discussion other than deriding Foxy then?
Typical.

<The charge that feminism stereotypes men as predators while reducing women to helpless
<victims certainly doesn’t apply to all feminists—but it’s a reasonably fair description of a
<large, influential, highly visible segment of modern feminism.

Kathy Young,

Daphne Patai, Chritsina Hoff Sommers to only mention a few, also state that there are many types of feminism.

there are gender feminist, equality feminists and more than a few other groups, mentioned in "Who Stole Feminism?" and "Heterophobia".

When I find the book/s, I'll list all the sub sections of the feminist movement, if you like.

Individual...you still have nothing much to add to this discussion other than deriding Foxy then?
Suseonline,
I'm not deriding Foxy, that's just you feeling a pinch of conscience because I'm trying to get Lefties to get a glimpse of sense but your mentality instincts tell you to go on the defensive.
That's all.
I think all this feminist crap stinks out all common sense & the Lefties don't seem to notice.
Why do you think females are feminist & women are not ? Think !

You guys crack me up.

It reminds me of sitting back and watching my son and daughter fighting, of course my son was going to loose, because she didn't fight fair.

Girls teeming up against the boys.