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Clive Palmer the Meglomaniac
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Posted by ConservativeHippie, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 8:09:50 PM
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Dear CH,
So you're concerned that a mining oligarch has bought his way into Australia's Parliament and is voting directly in his own interests. And you're alarmed that he's using his influence in Parliament to openly try to direct government policies. So what's new? In this country we have an American company - NewCorp, owned by an American - (Murdoch), controlling our media and influencing both the government and the public. Telling both what to think. Take a look at our outmoded, inefficient and corrupted system of governance. We have politicians with no real skills designing highly technical systems (communications). We have constipated bureaucracies - all coupled with a gross lack of accountability. We have public servants getting away with massive and expensive failures. We urgently need 21st Century governance to replace the current 19th Century model. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 17 July 2014 6:17:21 PM
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HI CH
CP IS ABOUT TO GET SHAFTED BIG TIME.. THIS THING ABOUT HAVING A SCEME BUT NOT KICKING IT INTO GEAR TILL OTHERS DO[I RECALL WE HAD THE SAME CONTRACT RE THE TAMMIFLUE[IE IF UN DECLARED A PANDEMIC GOVT AUTO ORDERD 3 MILLION DOSES[ and then the un declared a pandemic and we got shafted now we going to have a faux sceme/i hope he is as clever as he was last time/cause they just got plastic bags through simply be reset see on plastic bags the max sales price was set[of 10 cents] and them non plastic bags cost 5 times that[AND ARE WORSE POLUTERS/PLUS WAGE COMPONANTS this ag beatup the light bulb concpiricy the toner concspiricy/they just go one and on sin taxes when govt can issue its owwn cash at will intrest and tax free/this tax is just plain-barsterdry http://home.alphalink.com.au/~radnat/anstey%27s%20kingdom%20of%20shylock.html http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/enron-2-0-wall-street-wants-manipulate-state-energy-markets-just-like-manipulates-every-market.html Posted by one under god, Thursday, 17 July 2014 7:30:25 PM
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ConservativeHippie, I don’t see Palmer as being any further off-track or megalomaniacal than Abbott, or Rudd, etc.
His influence could be better or worse for us, and will probably be a mixture. We sure do need to break away from the two party system, where both parties are essentially the same when it comes to the big political philosophies, and which are both in the pockets of the big business fraternity. We need a sensible sane stable-population sustainability-oriented major party. The biggest crying shame I find with politics is that the Greens should be this party. But they are just so non-sustainability-oriented! Even if PUP is completely non-sustainability-minded, which I guess they will turn out to be, they won’t be any worse than the current mob in power, or the opposition. Posted by Ludwig, Thursday, 17 July 2014 10:31:35 PM
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Clive baby is there to provide a bit of vaudeville...and then to assist the govt to pass contentious legislation.
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 18 July 2014 12:24:03 AM
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Is this any different, from the days of the DLP? The conservatives really loved the DLP as they were even more conservative than they were. The DLP believed they had God on their side, unlike PUP, who also believe they have God on their side, but the DLP didn't think he was sitting in parliament with them, in the form of a Big Clive, as PUP does!
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 18 July 2014 6:53:07 AM
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Well said Foxy.
We all know that Clive is there to further his own interests, but, then again, they are all there for that reason, They're not there for people's interest. Clive has picked up on that fact & is pushing what the majority of Australians want to happen. Yes, yes, I know. We have a vocal minority that claim the moral high ground, but that's not what the majority of Australians on all sides of politics really want. People want a system that works, presently it is just a shemozzle of self interest. Posted by Jayb, Friday, 18 July 2014 8:38:38 AM
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Clive Palmer is a loose cannon and a very rich one at that and unfortunately, his parliamentary duties are well down his list of objectives', as he focuses on fighting his Chinese partners over claimed dirty deals.
But, his biggest distraction is that he has an axe to grind with the QLD premier. So, for anyone out there who saw this guy as an uplifting alternative, you have been duded! The only reason he has acquired the amount of votes he has is because of voter dissatisfaction of the two major parties, the greens and the now tainted independent option, at the hand of Oakshot and Windsor. You know, the ones who ran from the fight. I cant say it enough, people should be careful what they wish for as they just may not like the result. Posted by rehctub, Friday, 18 July 2014 9:43:05 AM
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*A senate dominated by a total fruit cake for the next six years is a disaster.*
And a lower house peopled by a fruitcake government is not a disaster? Posted by Robert LePage, Friday, 18 July 2014 10:24:38 AM
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Anyone accusing someone else of having an own interest is either extremely stupid or extremely hypocritical. Everyone has an own interest.
Posted by individual, Friday, 18 July 2014 11:13:53 AM
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I predict Big Clive will grow tired of politics after enjoying the initial buzz that a little bit of power has given him. Then he'll pull the plug on PUP, and cut off the cash, oh! dear. Clive will then vacate Canberra, leaving behind his motley collection of senators to fend for themselves, oh! dear. Some, without the benefit of a cashed up Clive will give it away, in 6 years from now, what a relief! that will be the front row forward, or attempt to run as an independent, like the sheila from Tassie, with a campaign financed on a shoe string, oh! dear.
At the moment they are all riding high, including the motoring man, and the bloke who's big comment is Canberra is cold, let me inside, so let them enjoy their 15 minutes of fame, oh! dear. Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 18 July 2014 11:55:47 AM
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It appears that Mr Palmer is imposing a price on each piece of government legislation that he agrees to accept, and that that price is so far one in the interests of the Australian people.
Not as much in the public interest, perhaps, as demanding a double dissolution so that the Coalition of the Lying has to submit its major actual legislation (unlike the tissue of pre-election lies and concealments) and unheralded IPA-directed administrative measures specifically to the people. But even that is inferior to democracy (i.e. binding citizen-initiated referenda as in California). Representative government means government OF the people BY the political parties FOR those who buy them. Posted by EmperorJulian, Friday, 18 July 2014 12:02:36 PM
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Yes Clive Palmer is a ratbag, & will do nothing good for Oz, or it's people. However he is nowhere near as crazy as those harpies from the south in the Greens.
He doesn't want to return us to the dark ages, as do the greens, & is no worse than the deluded Democrats before him & the Greens. His vicious streak pales into insignificance when compared to that of the Hanson woman. He only hates the LNP, she hates everyone. So he is a ratbag, & a self serving one, but I'll take him any time in preference of Hanson & her lot, or the shrew who last led the labor party in the last parliament. Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 18 July 2014 12:39:46 PM
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Hasbeen we Greens might want to return everyone to the "Dark Ages" but you are the exception. We want to return you to the "Stone Ages" your already in the "Dark Ages". LOL
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 21 July 2014 8:58:05 AM
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Now that says it all about the Greens Paul1405.
I've seen the light about them & you. You are the one heading for the stone age, & good riddance too, I might say. Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 21 July 2014 11:54:33 AM
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Clive is a megalomaniac
Tony is a misogynist Bill is a mug But Jacqui is a moron! No doubt about it. From the time I first clapped eyes on Jacqui Lambie from PUP, and she opened her big mouth I thought humm "Lambie your a moron!" and now she has confirmed it, that in fact she is indeed a most moronic type. On 'Tassie Talk Back' with none other than Kim and Dave, a pair totally unknown to me, no doubt a couple of the local radio bogens. Lambie beard her soul, well at least what she thinks is her ideal "man". Allow me quote Lambie after she had made starling revelations about her bikini line. the perfect man; "They must have heaps of cash and they've got to have a package between their legs...they don't even need to speak." Lambie confessed she had been manless for 11 years, I wonder why? Australians expect a certain level of intelligence from their politicians, well they must at least have the IQ of an 'Orangutan' no less. Sadly, I can only conclude Ms Lambie has failed us on that score. She is destined to be manless for ever more! Except for possibly 'Jamie' a cashed up and experienced with older women, 22 year old listener who rang in offering to meet every expectation of the 43 year old, and desperate Jackie Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 7:49:16 AM
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Yes Paul, but where are all the misogynist screamers ?
Sssshhhh, no not a sound ! Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 8:41:38 AM
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Heh, heh, now we have to be offended by the less subtle humour and blunt honesty of the ordinary Aussie woman, caught out for calling a shovel and shovel, and trying to make light of it. Although as many men could attest, the educated middle class women who like to feel superior to the common herd of women do not take a backward step when rudeness and crudeness suit their purposes.
Jacqui Lambie is now required to elevate that voluminous scarf - so reminiscent of the military disguise scarf if only bit was in a less attention-seeking hue - to cover her face. Maybe a complete cover might suit the morality police? She has to act like the vulnerable, sensitive, easily offended flower. She 'mans up' though and would never do that ie up that scarf, unless she was on maneuvers, which in her case could involve some gorilla sex by the sound of it, particularly in view of her epic nocturnal drought. Sex is OK and nothing to be ashamed of. Too much information of course, but so what? Not having a go at any who are questioning the feminists' double standard and Paul 1405 has a point if he is saying that a senator should act 'proper' (wry grin), but have a look at the style and behaviour of other Parliamentarians (all parties) and not just the blokes. Is anyone else a bit weary of the shock, horror, prudity of the media? It is all about gathering an audience from the shallow end of the gene pool, along with the hysterics and the interfering nuisances. Enough of the dumbed down bumpf, what about some real news and real investigative journalism? I don't think that Jacqui has anything to defend. Whether or not she is my cup of tea is something else. What should be attacked is the political correctness that is rife in Oz. It is political correctness that is obscene, not the unsubtle comments of ordinary worker folk. Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 5:00:29 PM
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I understand that the Greens and Labour are lying back and having a laugh as Clive undermines everything the Coalition is trying to achieve but his antics effect every single one of us. Are the Green and labour concerned over his bullying? Are they concerned about his megalomania?
We need a public discussion about reeling in this mad man. Regardless of our individual politics, Clive Palmer is not good for Australia. A senate dominated by a total fruit cake for the next six years is a disaster.