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Posted by one under god, Monday, 14 July 2014 11:28:24 AM
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Afternoon all
It's a generational thing HASBEEN, but I totally agree with your comments. Why do our academic brethren tend to get it all so wrong ? They're educated, schooled in the discipline they've embraced, but when it comes to social matters, they tend to drift to the left why ? People who work the streets, they generally have a sound appreciation of many of the 'why's with street kids. Yet from experience, most academic strategists take little or no heed as to what these street workers thoughts or recommendations are ? Hi there PAUL 1405 - you seem to have an inordinately good knowledge of many of the issues confronting homeless youth ? Have your ever worked either voluntarily or professionally in that field by chance ?Also, I note you're not in favour of corporal punishment ? What about a contemporaneous (hand) slap across the backside, of a child who's being exceptionally rude or defiant ? Many thanks for that most interesting link you so kindly sent us all too. Thank you too DAVIDF for your contribution and your delightful piece of prose. I see you prefer to discipline kids by vocal remonstration and withdrawing their liberty, concessions and privileges, when kids are set on misbehaving, rather than resorting to a quick 'smack across the behind ? Hi there INDIVIDUAL - Regrettably, whether it's the fault of the 'Left or the Right' of society, it impacts equally unfavourably upon us all, none are immune from street crime or anti-social behaviour, or the wretched social spectacle of youth homelessness ? And I don't see it as a role for police to move kids on, who're 'dirtying-up' the streets or public places, merely by their presence. Hi ONE UNDER GOD - Johan, I couldn't agree with you more, when you say police should NOT be used to either gather revenue, or become societies 'broom' to sweep away all our social problems like youth homelessness ! Principally, the role of police, is to keep the Queens peace. Not as a surrogate raiser of revenue, as they're often used today ? Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 14 July 2014 5:49:38 PM
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Dear o sung wu,
I have three children. The first two were boys. When they misbehaved I would give them a swat across the bottom. Then we had a little girl. When she was 3 she ran out on the street without any clothes on, and a car screeched to a stop a few feet from her. I grabbed her and brought her back in the house. Since she was dressed for a spanking I put her across my knee. There was no way I could lay a hand in anger on that little bottom. To be fair I never swatted the boys again either. They have grown up into well-behaved adults with each having two children of their own. Corporal punishment was apparently unnecessary. I can't imagine them being better than they are. As far as I know they have not found corporal punishment necessary with their children. Posted by david f, Monday, 14 July 2014 7:08:03 PM
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o sung wu,
Primarily the problem of youth homelessness stems from the availability of Centerlink funding for kids who decide to leave home for either real or perceived reasons. Remember the huge public discussion that took place when the concept of parental divorce hit the media. Strip away the truancy laws, which helped to keep the kids at school, remove the ethical preclusions of exposure to moral danger and carnal knowledge, which basically now says underage sex is the norm and not the exception, then add in the current ‘divine right of protest’ without responsibility and then, spice the whole recipe with such abstracts as political correctness and privacy claptrap, access to free legal wizardry and social conciliation and finally finish the package with inclusive social empathy and collective clemency and you have the complete platform for youth disaster Posted by chrisgaff1000, Monday, 14 July 2014 7:32:21 PM
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from a "dysfunctional family"
Paul1405, I'd not be so quick to lay the blame on parents. Why do families become dysfunctional in the first place ? My guess is 95% is due to financial stress & that in turn comes from incompetent authorities. Also, the mentality that everyone owes you a living is so prevalent now & that in turn doesn't come from dysfunctional families, it's a product of dysfunctional education. The same education also gave us the dysfunctional society we are now but let's just blame the parents, it's easier than for incompetent & useless Leftie bureau rats to admit their failure in their responsibilities to those who feed them. Posted by individual, Monday, 14 July 2014 7:45:10 PM
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corperal punshment/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment_in_the_home http://www.google.com.au/search?q=corporal+punishment+australia& im not into it[AND AM WARY SUPPORTING IT] HOW HARD/is hard enough[the first people beLIEVED HAT BELTING THEM ONLY DRIVES THE PROMBLEM;DEEPER damm caps i would see the force BECOME YET AGAIN A SERVICE LIKE if a vehicle is danger then a police man/can issue an order for rePar of rePLACEMENT/with the cost of a service alOne/being owed/THAT a police man or woMAN can order a hotel or hsTEL-bed/for the H homeleSS i go further the police can pick the punnnishment hold a trial there and then and its recorded as the judgmenT[of course court revieuws all of it/.but by testing thE FACTS are sure and the cure fair. police mst be like 'sherrifs'[each haS their oWN BEAT THEIR own turf/to kep safe[not just safe/but to reprt all damages/vandaLISM/BE the eyes looking for public safety[if that roof looks unsafe/he can look or ask it be inspected and maDE SAFE there is also the issue of best use but the more i wriTE THE MORE GUILTY I FEEL BY Avoiding editing the damm THING it is as it is[i can fix homelessness/witH easy enrty aces by facIAL RECOGNITION/not MUCH bigger than a bed a toilet a SHOWERS/WASHING FACILITIES/beDDING ..[built into comunities//along pathways/arround the edges of parks..etc IINVENTED THE WIKISEED/WIKIGELD UNDER THE SUN TREATY the basic idea with that was each kid gets a credit card/on a phone/ and 3 times a day 5 dollars is supled for meal/drink[a merket WILL CATER /TO THIS STEADY INCOME STREAM/plus a bed for the night[at 5 dollars the safe BED]CHAMBER\]/THERE ARE PLENTY OF PROJECTS NEEDING YOUTH ENERGY/BUT mate here is a clue/i attended two rainbow GATHERINGS/thatS A THING YOU MUST DO ONCE basiclly the RAINBOW TRIBES AND AQUARIOUS PEOPLE hEAD BUSH and juST TEACH EDUCATE PARTY AND SHARE/its ALL paid for by majic hat that goes arround after the meals [3 times a day]...ITs like heaven/it really is. Posted by one under god, Monday, 14 July 2014 7:47:31 PM
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damm caps
police rightfully cant even talk to anyone/without a lawfull reASON
IE A CPMPLAIN FROM THE PUBLIC/or possability of danger/BUT COPS SEE DANGER IN EVERYTHING.;CONVENIENTLY SO.
THEY ARE PLAYING STINKING GAMES/of revenue raising\
but we talked of all that before/i regard the police /as policing revenue raising policy/and as protection for the elite scum asset stripping us blind while sending coppers in to bust kids.
they qare the might that seperates/the law abiding and exploited/from seeking vengence upon their faceless oppresors/who fight via moralisation of law
no im not seing the goo this ilitaristion of police ervice has achievED[AND THEIR BLACK UNIFORM goes well with thewir black hearts[if they got one]i see a lot of frightende girly gurlies with guns stunners and inflated opinions of themselves
as you know
homelesness is as simple as a copper giving a kid a warm safe place to sleep[most homes are hell holes they escaped from]..but its not use telling that you a mate
so Like many i cant posT
TRUTH AND HAVE NO ENERGY FOR THE LIES/
IF POLICE GOT REAL/THEY WOULD ARREST TRUE EVIL CRIMINALS[THE ONES PASING THE KEEP BUSY REvENUE RAISING BY NEW LAWS/ANYTIME YA SEE A COPPER YA KNOW THEY JUST LOOKING VTO GET YA IN HANDCUFFS/OUT OF VIDIO VIEUW/..OR THE TAPE GOT LOST AT DPP.[[OH SO CONVENIENTLY/TOO MANY TIMES.]
ITS A RIgged game/wherE
THEY WATCHYOU AS YOU POST
DELETE GREATCHUNKS/JUST CAUSE THEY CAN
WE ARE OVER SURVEILED/face book is intel op
gogle is intel op/so much is security agencie intel gthering
who yu talk to/what you say//
dont we have any rights?
plenty but the kiddy fiddlers running the just us system
do their moralistions very proffitably for the inbred elite lobby
lots of coppers in heaven/but far too many chose hell
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