A few good points have been raised about Government pensions. Paul Keating gave us assets tests and income tests but excused his PS mates. Let's have a campaign to give this wonderful assets/income tests to all, the ex politicians and public servants.
There is millions of saving for everyone then. Whilst we are about it we should also make the recipient of "Fringe Benefits" pay the tax. Another Keating initiative.

spindoc,

"You are part of the socialized cancer that inflicts our nation, lacking any ability for self analysis, critical thinking or examination of the wider world you so despise. You are part of the self and reflective hatred that besets those who depend entirely upon vilification of contrary opinions.

If Scott Morrison had any balls, he would ship you and yours off to Manus Island so that you could commune with like minded life forms, the LNP haters"

Again - "....You are part of the self and reflective hatred that besets those who depend entirely upon vilification of contrary opinions."

Always a laugh to see someone criticising vilification on the grounds of contrary opinion by practicing the vilification of a contrary opinion.

........

This govt hasn't got a clue. Tones the amateur says that negotiating with the Senate on the the carbon tax repeal has been normal.

Lenore Taylor wrote that she's never seen negotiating skills like it

"It is extremely abnormal for a government Senate team to negotiate an amendment with a lower house MP and a gaggle of others in a corridor as journalists watch on and the clock ticks down on the government’s own gag motion."

Lol!

As for Scotty the Terrible....I expect if he ever gets any more power, that he'll manage to turn it on the citizens of Oz just like the good rogue ideologue (who cares about transparency) he is.

This govt repeatedly having to remind us that they're "adults" is like the GDR calling itself "democratic".

Dear spindoc,

Although I am extremely flattered by your
taking the time to analyse me - I really feel
unworthy of all this attention from you.
Surely, your time could be better spent
giving us something more original than finding
faults with others and talking about mirrors,
while avoiding discussing the image that you yourself
present in your posts on this forum.

As for "originality?" I understand where you're coming
from. It's "other people" who keep repeating the
same old jokes we've yawned at a hundred times before;
You repeat old favourites that you know will get a laugh.
(smile).

You obviously feel that life is only tolerable when you
can look down on someone else - and in this case, I'm
the "lucky" recipient. Well as everyone knows, the world
is divided into two categories: Other people and Us.

Life could be defined as a long process of putting up
with Other People's irritating habits. Yet I am
constantly amazed at how tolerant even the most intolerant
people are of their own foibles.

cont'd ...

Dear spindoc,

HEE HAW!

Indi, you are spot on as the main skill most descision makers lack, is life skills. They have no idea.

The single best way to fix this problem is to remove what it is they are coming here for. Full stop! So far, Abbott and Co are the only ones doing anything close to that. It's just a pity they are faced with fixing a monumental stuff up they didn't cause, without the funds to priorly do so. At least not without robbing from someone else.

Another VERY IMPORTANT FACT that the bleeding hearts DON'T GET, is that this debacle was created during boom times for our mining sector and, Holden, Ford and Toyota had not mentioned leaving, at least not with the clarity they have shown now.

In short, this problem was caused when we had money, now Abbott and Co are forced to fix it without money.

While I hate to sound like a broken record, one K Rudd is living it up, at the expense of our sick, our elderly, our mentally il and our kids, because the money HE WASTED could have helped all these sectors and quite frankly, the sheer arrogance of the man sees him enjoy life as if nothing he did was wrong.

rehchtub,
On the other thread Josephus talks about how mean hearted we are, I wonder how much the ex PM's are giving to Charity without claiming it back in tax ?
The Labor voters have literally blood on their hands but their conscience is clear because their Superannuation is up to date.
Until these mutts concede that they are the greed mongers & not those whom they accuse of greed mongering then nothing will change. The public Service needs stripping back to only the required numbers, this will remove Labor's backbone. I witness Labor incompetence on a daily basis & it beats me how we can keep on going. I had my spirits lifted though a couple of days ago when talking to some people 30 years younger than me & who all & I mean ALL agreed with my assertion that Labor is an evil & conniving enterprise hellbent on destroying Australia by pretending to fight for the workers, yeah right !