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What a mess Rudd has left us with.

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What Isreal gives refugees
Some get a short-term visa, to be renewed every few months. They are not allowed to work.

Some get an allowance of about $4.50 per day, as well as food and basic medical services. Those benefits are more than what most asylum seekers in Israel get. The estimated 45,000 Africans who have not been detained in Holot continue living - mostly in south Tel Aviv - on short-term visas, without any social benefits and with limited health assistance.

Former Minister of Interior Eli Yishai was quoted as saying: "We will make the lives of infiltrators bitter until they leave." Israel's immigration authority offered Asheber $3,500 to leave the country but he declined. He is too afraid to go back to Eritrea and said he has nowhere else to go.

Israeli government terms refugees as "infiltrators". (How true a lot are Economic infiltrators)
Posted by Philip S, Friday, 11 July 2014 6:22:09 PM
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Dear spindoc,

Thanks for the donkey joke.
I heard it decades ago - when I was studying
Organisational Behaviour - it was a great
example given - of motivation.

You've also - probably heard of the old warning -
of the slow-boiled frog.

The folksy warning states that if a frog is thrown
into boiling water it will quickly jump out - but if
you put a frog in a pan of cold water and raise the
temperature ever so slowly - the frog will eventually
cook to death.

As far as the current government is concerned -
it's time we jumped out - and quickly.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 July 2014 6:23:24 PM
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Foxy - Don't forget to take the source into account.
Quote "Alastair Nicholson is a former chief justice of the Family Court, a University of Melbourne law professor and chairman of Children's Rights International. This is an edited extract of a speech he gave last month."

This person I would suspect is not short of a penny and would not be effected adversely by Government cutbacks to pensions etc.

It is easy to be overly generous when the expense of such generosity is not coming out of your pocket.

Also I suspect none of the economic invaders will be living in the posh suburb he lives in.
Posted by Philip S, Friday, 11 July 2014 6:29:02 PM
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‘morning Foxy,

Mirrors are such a bitch.

They are fine when they lay face down on your dressing table but the instant you pick them up and look into them they pose real “reflection” of your problems.

The reason for old jokes is because they offer an enduring end to reflective reality.

Whilst I fully understand the frog in warm water analogy, I was wondering if you could drag yourself away from your self referential network long enough to expose yourself to some form of reality?

You are quite at home with the concept of frogs in warm water however, you seem utterly oblivious to the cozy pot of warm water in which you exist. It is getting warmer by the minute yet your focus remains on “others” who might get boiled? What is it about you that rejects the reality of your boiling environment whilst you busily squawk “hot water, hot water?

You are a classic progressive, incapable of original thought, borrowing the opinion of others, throwing Unicorns to the proletariat and wondering why, after years of trying, that you are losing traction in thought, word and deed.

Of all the “intellectuals” on OLO, you are potentially the greatest failure. Desperate to gain relevance in a world that is leaving you looking increasingly like the eunuch at the orgy, you play on the platitudes and rhetoric of a bygone era.

I challenge you to enter the world of reality and debate your rhetoric. You are simply a dated intellectual lacking in original thought. You just “borrow” the concepts of the pseudo intellectualism of those that inspire you.

You are part of the socialized cancer that inflicts our nation, lacking any ability for self analysis, critical thinking or examination of the wider world you so despise. You are part of the self and reflective hatred that besets those who depend entirely upon vilification of contrary opinions.

If Scott Morrison had any balls, he would ship you and yours off to Manus Island so that you could commune with like minded life forms, the LNP haters
Posted by spindoc, Friday, 11 July 2014 7:59:23 PM
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Yep, keep the brown skins and apes OUT of Australia. Scott Morrison is doing a GREAT job.
Posted by Lester1, Friday, 11 July 2014 8:16:17 PM
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Also I suspect none of the economic invaders will be living in the posh suburb he lives in.
Philip S,
I have had quite a long yak with that chap & I was dismayed at the ignorance of daily life & the aspirations of normal people that a person of his calibre has. He wa so sucked in by the do-gooders' rants it almost made me cry & yet he is a person whom everyone looks up to.
It's just dimay after dismay. We need to get people who know into plces of decision & policy making, not these educate or rather super indoctrinated academics. Only then can we start solving problems. Academic experts are not the answer, they are the problem !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 12 July 2014 7:21:08 AM
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