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Is the handing over of asylum seekers at sea to the military of Sri Lanka a criminal act?

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Dear CHERFUL,

The Sri Lankan Government is one of the most brutal
regimes in Asis. A regime currently being
investigated by the UN for war crimes. We are handing the
persecuted back to the persecutors. A Member of the
Australian Government is openly and blatantly lying
to the Australian people about a matter of life
and death at sea. The military is now
completely in charge of Australian Immigration
operations. A general is in command of civilian agencies.
To Australia's shame immigration officials have made
only the most fleeting inquiries about the legitimacy
or otherwise of their requests for protectioon.
Four questions were asked during interviews - conducted
via video conference calls, only one of which asked why
they sought protection.

Why are you assuming that these people are going to be
trouble for Australia when records show the contrary.
Leo Seemanpillai is just one example of a Tamil
who lived here and contributed greatly to our society
during that time:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-18/asylum-seeker-who-set-himself-on-fire-remembered-at-funeral/5533194

Hundreds of Australians came to his funeral in Geelong - so
Leo had made quite a positive impact. However, sadly his
family were denied a visa to attend his funeral.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 10:29:45 AM
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Lexi,

I am well aware that you would like to limit the discussion to only what the present government is doing, as to compare your outrage now to your silence when Labor did much the same must be uncomfortable.

Please at some stage read the UNHCR charter. It is only a few pages and is in plain language. It is clear as has the Government's legal team stated that the migration act and the UNHCR charter only applies to those asylum seekers in Australia or at least within the 12 nautical mile territorial waters. As per the document I linked in the other post, the only legal limits to the government's action to repatriate the illegals is the human rights requirement that the illegals are not in danger of torture, abuse or persecution. This can be solved by a simple commitment by the Sri Lankan government.

Secondly your claim of the 41 illegals being "dissidents" is complete bollocks as 37 were not Tamils and thus not at risk of discrimination or persecution.

Finally, the second boat of 153 illegals was not destined to be returned in spite of all the left whingers' hype. They, however, can be sent directly to Manus or Nauru, and as they have never been in Aus territory have no claim to come to Aus.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 10:47:10 AM
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Spot-on, Shadow,

<<Secondly your claim of the 41 illegals being "dissidents" is complete bollocks as 37 were not Tamils and thus not at risk of discrimination or persecution.>>

One of the fathers of the above 41 was interviewed on ABC AM this morning. Bemoaning their arrest on return to Sri Lanka he said: all they were doing was looking for jobs.

all they were doing was looking for jobs
all they were doing was looking for jobs
all they were doing was looking for jobs

Betya Foxy doesnt cut and paste that one!
Posted by SPQR, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 11:02:01 AM
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Foxy,

For some reason I called you Lexi Sorry.

You claim that Sri Lanka is one of the most brutal regimes in Asia. I can easily name plenty that are worse, in fact of the 43 countries in Asia, Sri Lanka is not even in the top half with respect to brutality today. Today the country is at peace. It is far from perfect, but the vast majority of Tamils are not at risk of persecution.

As for the mentally ill tamil that burnt himself, why on earth would we want to bring his relatives here if it is going to cost us hundreds of thousands to send them back?

Paul,

I am continually astounded by the cold hearted Sarah Hanson Young who when asked about all the drownings of illegal essentially said #$& happens, bemoans a resettled refugee being drowned, yet remains silent when asylum seekers commit rape or murder in Aus.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 11:12:36 AM
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Shadow you may be naive enough to trust "a simple commitment by the Sri Lankan government." Others are not, yet again you have placed your trust in Abbott and co to do both the moral and the legal right by these people.

Another good post by Foxy, Shadow your going to have to lift your game, your getting beat on all fronts. I do understand that Abbott and co give you little ammo to fight with, whilst loading up their opponents with tons of dynamite to throw back.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 11:23:28 AM
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The discussion is now redundant as those on the first boat have admitted
that they were economic migrants not asylum seekers.
This seems to be an early project for the people smuggling firm.
No doubt the those on the next boat will be better instructed to throw
their passports or other documentation away and claim political asylum.
Also they will be told to keep the boats location quiet until within
12 nm of Australian territory.

Their biggest complaint seems to be that the food was past its best use date.
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 11:25:53 AM
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