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The Forum > General Discussion > Where did the traditional Marxist leftist pursuit of class equality dissapear to?

Where did the traditional Marxist leftist pursuit of class equality dissapear to?

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There are no real "leftists" anymore.

Political parties are little more than the Public Relations wing of various interest groups and sponsors.

What the rabid right calls "left" is actually about centrist, just slightly left of where the original Liberal Party was about 15 years ago.
The current conservative parties have absorbed most of the previous groups once regarded as extremists.

Even the Greens have conservative views on many social matters. Clive Palmer had his origins as an agent of the Bjelke-Petersen era, yet he is seen as "progressive" in some areas.

Since there is nobody to the right of the current Liberal Party, everybody who is not a supporter is regarded as "left".
Posted by wobbles, Friday, 20 June 2014 11:50:20 PM
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Wobbles,
Yes, given that Marxism has only ever been a fringe tendency in Australia the "Left vs Right" has always been, shall we say Methodism seeking to rein in the worst excesses of otherwise devout Christian capitalists. The people who make up the rank and file of the Greens have more in common with the Salvation Army then they do any Marxian group and along with the Uniting Church and the Islamic councils the Sallies are actually the "New Left".
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 21 June 2014 6:38:11 AM
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<<There are no real "leftists" anymore>>

Yep, what you get a lot of nowadays are fungi leftists … persons ranting against privilege whilst themselves living in some fashionable suburb on some big fat salary or pension-- they are often retired or practising teachers, lawyers …or librarians. In that way they are rather like the Dutch Elm Disease which can only survive in an Elm forest yet does its darndest to destroy the trees.
Posted by SPQR, Saturday, 21 June 2014 7:22:07 AM
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‘morning Jottiikii,

Just wondering why you offered a two post response to my non-existent post? Whilst I appreciate the recognition for just being “on your mind”, this is either a response for another poster or it is on the wrong thread?

Regards.
Posted by spindoc, Saturday, 21 June 2014 8:47:52 AM
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SPQR,
It's all faith based though, that's why we call it "The Cathedral",seriously, the "Left" is a space where Islam is seen as a progressive social movement.
Another way to describe politics in Australia would be: "Collectivist,anti science and anti intellectual", that description covers everyone from Cory Bernardi to Sarah Hanson Young.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 21 June 2014 9:33:49 AM
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Marxism is a elegant philosophy. Unfortunately it just doesn't work for humans. Following the collapse of all Marxist states after delivering only equality of poverty, Marxism has lost all credibility.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 21 June 2014 9:55:44 AM
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