Boy don't the Queensland legal fraternity have their knickers in a knot.

All those smooth backsides, polished by years of sitting on only the very best leather upholstery, are really squirming.

I don't know if all are judges are lefties, not really interested enough to think about it, but the screams are coming out via the ABC so it is highly possible.

After years of the Beattie & Bligh governments following religiously the recommendations of the judges old boys club when appointing or promoting judges, the Newman government is not playing by the rules.

Imagine a government usurping the privilege of the club, & appointing someone who is not quite to their liking.

Does my heart good to hear the ABC & the legal fraternity blathering away in their indignation. This is a sorry state of affairs, & I would never have felt this way in the past. It is only after years of nasty vindictive government,t of little people like Rudd Gillard, Beattie & Bligh, that I find this occurring

Mr Carmody has enjoyed a meteoric rise under the Newman government, and is being promoted from chief magistrate to chief justice of the Supreme Court, despite never sitting in it.

His critics say he's too close to the government and inexperienced.

Mr Davis, who resigned on Friday over the alleged leaking, labelled Judge Carmody's appointment as "horrendously controversial".

The fact that Supreme Court justices are silent is a "supreme vote of no confidence" in Mr Carmody's appointment.

The fact that Supreme Court justices are silent is a "supreme vote of no confidence" in Mr Carmody's appointment.

"The history books are not littered with leaders who are dragging people kicking and screaming with them," Mr Davis told the ABC.

Mr Carmody's appointment was decided by Mr Bleijie and Premier Campbell Newman, and cabinet approval wasn't required.

Education Minister John-Paul Langbroek, Transport Minister Scott Emerson and Energy Minister Mark McArdle rallied behind Mr Bleijie.

"Judge Carmody has the capacity, and history will prove he is the right man for the job," Mr McArdle said.

"We want a safe state, we want the best state to raise a family and he (Jarrod Bleijie) is doing exactly that.

"Jarrod has the full confidence of every member of the government."

Nothing to worry about unless you are a crook

Well, even that parasitic mutt Fitzgerald had to force one of his quips just to make sure that the Labor cronies can see he is still one of them. I wonder if that man actually knows what integrity is. Judging by the way the CJC worked in his wake I doubt it.

@Hasbeen, Monday, 16 June 2014 10:39:37 AM

LOL True. You have a delightful dry wit.

As for the ABC, it has lost the plot.

Dear Hasbeen,

Wonderfully bombastic as always.

Of course the good old Westminster system does attempt to place some distance between the parliament and the legal system. But not in Queensland it seems. If Hasbeen is happy that Newman got his boy up then the rest of us should just bite our tongues because he knows best. And if that rascally ABC shows any concern then sack the blooming lot of them!

Love your work son.

Duxy, yes we want some distance between the parliament & the legal eagles. To start with it would be a good idea to ban all of them from election to anything. That would give a little distance.

Then we could throw the lot of them in the slammer, judges & all, & let the existing inmates into the courts.

We would then have at least a slightly more honest system, with a lot more honor. Hell we might even get some justice in the legal system.

Of course nothing could ever bring any honor to the ABC. The only salvation for it would be a flock of nuclear armed cruise missiles, although complete defunding would be a start I suppose, if not so satisfying.

But pray tell exactly what is the difference between Beattie/Bligh appointing a judge & Newman doing the same thing. Oh of course, only lefties are to be appointed to anything paying all that lovely money.

We need more Gilbert and Sullivan in schools to prepare us for this as adults.

Dear Hasbeen,

You wrote;

“yes we want some distance between the parliament & the legal eagles”

Quite glad we could agree on that point at least.

However Queenslanders would beg to differ.

Quote;

Queensland and the Westminster System
The Constitution of Queensland Act 2001, unlike the Australian Constitution, currently does not expressly provide that Ministers of the Crown have to be elected parliamentarians. By Westminster conventions, however, that is the case, thus allowing for "responsible Government". In another comparison with the Australian Constitution, the Queensland Constitution does not prescribe a rigid "separation of powers" and the Queensland Parliament could legislate to alter the judicial role of the State's courts.
http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/explore/about-us/parliament-overview/separation-of-powers

I you were really interested in change perhaps this might be your first port of call, well second at least after you finish your nuking of the ABC.

with a lot more honor.
Hasbeen,
I guess this is just a simple typo & not an underlying reference to some goings on in the klink ?

God aren't these lawyers disgusting people.

Now one of these fire engine chasers, has organized for a bunch of illegal boat people, the gatecrashers who literally crashed into Christmas island, to sue the commonwealth government, us the taxpayers, for not rescuing them.

And they reckon used car salesmen are short of morals, hell they have nothing on the legal fraternity.

Hasbeen,

What's the betting that the Government will lose?

is Mise,
The Government will win because it's not Labor for a start & my guess ist that lawyer will need t go into hiding soon once his identity becomes known. I don't think Australians will tolerate such low-life traitor parasites. He'll regret getting involved if the conversations on our bus are anything to go by.

He's not hiding yet and was on TV yestermorn stating his very reasonable case.

Apologies for the cut n paste that follows...“In other words the last 30 years have not been a battle between two different political ideologies but a Mafia family dispute over how best to rob the rest of us for the benefit of the whole gang.”

enpassant.com.au/2014/06/04/labor-is-not-the-answer/

When we see the creeping fascism taking place that is Australian politics over the past years, especially the quasi-dictatorship of Herr Howard, and more recently being ramped up by Herr Bott Fly and cronies, it there we see the erosion of human rights at their essence. It is here we see the disregard for the basic tenets of our 'democracy' here in Australia and in several other Westminster based governments, notably Canada.

Let us not forget the roots of the Liberal Party in Australia, a Nationalist/Socialist platform if ever there was one. I do not for one moment advocate the Labor movement or ALP, for it too is nothing more than a "Another Liberal Party" in its current guise.

This from the Australian Dictionary of Biography in 2000, regarding Wilfred Kent Hughes... In April 1923 Kent Hughes returned to Australia and joined his father's publishing firm. Standing for the Legislative Assembly as a Progressive Nationalist, he won the seat of Kew in 1927; he was to retain it until 1949. He was appointed secretary to Sir William McPherson's cabinet in November 1928 but, with his friend (Sir) Robert Menzies, resigned in July 1929. Rebels against the conservative establishment and the mediocrity of State politics, in 1930 Kent Hughes and Menzies formed the Young Nationalist Organisation which became a major force in Victorian non-Labor politics.

Going further back...from Rev'd John Wests UNION AMONG THE COLONIES (1854) "Thus a strong government, however desireable for the repression of wrong, can only be consistent with freedom when it derives its authorisation, and when it acts as the trustee, and in the presence of, many!"

Albie Manton in Darwin,
Ah well, you make all crystal clear why these boatpeople who went to sea at their own risk perished.
It's all Australia's fault ! Of course we should deplete our coffers to compensate people from other countries, what else is our money for if not that ? I'm sure most Australian will jump at the chance of paying for these creeps of lawyers because as per usual the money won't go where it's claimed to be for. At least it stays in australian (lawyers) hands. After all, these vermin are home-grown.

you could argue that Rudd/Gillard layed out the red carpet leading to the deaths. While Australia should share no blame the incompetency and deceitfulness of the previous Government certainly sent the totally wrong message to those coming here illegally. If I was being invited to a country where welfare was far more than I could earn it would of been tempting.

Allegedly the sea rescue equipment was not kept in working order and that the Government had a 'duty of care' to have it ready for instant use; if this is the case then the status of those needing assistance is irrelevant.

What utter rot.

Try crashing into Fraser Island, Smokey cape or Cape Morton, & see how much rescue equipment is standing by to save you.

The only help you will get is from volunteer organisations, none of them very close to anywhere but a port. Neither state nor commonwealth maintain a rescue service for the incompetents.

Crash your boat into the reef, & you will get fined, if you survive, not rescued

Crash your boat into the reef, & you will get fined, if you survive, not rescued
Hasbeen,
Precisely, I know a bloke who lost a rather nice boat because it drifted onto a reef when the motor stopped because his fuel was stolen immediately after refuelling. It was confiscated by Krudd's Federal Police & the poor sod lost all.
Now some lecherous Australian maggot of a lawyer wants to milk OUR money ? Anyone know how to deal with such vermin ?

The point is, does he have a case?

The point is, does he have a case?
is Mise,
No ! Not in a moral, technical nor logical sense. Australia does not owe anything in that case as sad & as unfortunate as it may be. If a shipwreck occurs it is not the country's fault in which it happens. What next ? We pay compensation because Australia didn't remove the island so that no boat can hit it ?

Funny, I would have thought that everyone has a moral obligation to save others in distress.

The issue seems to be clouded by the origin of those who were shipwrecked.

Hi Indi, all...I had the opportunity to study law, 2002 - 2006 at the then Northern Territory Uni aka Charles Darwin Uni. In the years I attended, there would be less than a handful of fellow students who now still practice that I would consider as 'reasonable human beings'...the rest as you allude, are nothing more than BMW driving scum who fleece, misrepresent and generally have no compassion for fellow human beings. All the while purporting to be "acting in the best interests of their client(s)".

Regarding the boatpeople, irregular immigrants, people "smugglees" and whatever they are politically correctly referred to today, I can say only this, I would do the same if I was in the same situation.

But Indi, the government is lying about boats being stopped. Why then is a brand new, 3,500 bed detention centre being built at Mokerang -(Manus Island)? There were recent adverts in papers all around OZ looking for plant operators and steel fixers to go there. As were adverts placed for "guards".

The recent High Court decision has now made it all the more palatable in the eyes of Herr Fuhrer.

If the current lack of manpower for manning foot patrols by NORFORCE could be solved, then I'm sure the actual numbers of intercepts would be higher, viz a viz "more boats arriving" - if you get my drift? There are far more actual illegal arrivals at our airports...but wait theres's no piteous, half drowned babies clinging to flotsam off the Red Rooster counter there at Tullamarine airport though...no nasty Chief Petty Officers pointing F88 & 9MM Brownings at someone to get them to burn their hands on an exhaust muffler...so no headlines!

Having said that I would do the same if in the same position, I would also accept that in doing so I run the risks experienced by said refugees. The other side of the coin is the electronic whorehouse and their disinformation campaign at the behest of the government (both Labor and Liberal).

WE ARE BEING LIED TO on so many levels !

Individual, (sorry again for cut n paste - it helps with limited time online) this is a post from 2006 below...

Perhaps we may have forgotten that the incumbent Liberals hold a Senate 'majority' - this in itself is a powerful tool with which to legislate, (all too often without a proper 'debate' as such).

In the dead of night bills get their second readings, get the nod and pass on into law, meanwhile human rights (with monotonous regularity) are shelved, negated and disregarded in the process.

With the lamented loss of an effective 'opposition' we see the forgone conclusions enacted on a daily basis.

Remembering Ben Franklins famous words: "Those who would give up essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

The greatest lie is the one of Australian 'democracy', perpetuated, fostered, and touted since Federation. We are a Monarchic - autocratic society, the senate majority exercised by Howard's Fascists is living testament to it.

Wake Up Australia - Land of the Anal Ostriches. Heads firmly planted in our fundamental orifices - oblivious to all but Murdoch, Packer and Fox realpolitik. Swallowing the mac Donald's line of political correctness, a craft devoid of helmsmen, a ship about to broach upon the reef of regional appeasement.

Well may we say "god save the queens", because the lavender mafia, feminazis and assorted buffoons have not come up with plausible answers thus far, and God help us when the day of reckoning is knocking at the door. Your politically myopic, single view perspectives are our greatest undoing.

Emigrate and give it all back to the kangaroos I say!

Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Wednesday, 28 June 2006 7:16:13 PM

everyone has a moral obligation to save others in distress.
Is Mise,
Of course & we do help when we can, I thought that was well known. But nowhere does it say we have to fork out millions because we had no hope of helping in those dreadful conditions.
Unless of course you'd have sent your son into the raging waters with the risk of losing him as well ? Come to think of we should sue you for not having your son at the ready to help these poor people. Why wasn't he there to offer assistance ? Because you failed to send him, it's all your fault, now pay up !

A lot of those "so called" poor people are ex terrorists and insurgents who have been displaced. They then get on boats and try to come over here. Morrison has put these scumbag refugees in their place. More power to our PM. He's protecting us.

If, as has been alleged, there were lifeboats there for the purpose of rescue then they should have been serviceable. Could have been Australian fishermen who were in distress.

The origins/religion/politics of those in need of assistance is immaterial.

The origins/religion/politics of those in need of assistance is immaterial.
is Mise,
No offence but this is just ignorant do-gooder blathering. The reality of it is that it was very rough seas, dangerous & from what footage I saw it was impossible to assist in that situation.
As for the people who perished & that they could have been Australian ? So what ? If you're unable to assist, you're unable to assist no matter who is in distress ! To try & make ideological mileage out of a tragedy is a tragedy in itself, the tragedy of the connivery of parasitic Australians who do not deserve to be called Australian. Scum is the correct term.
Decent Australians die in accidents in their jobs but no-one sticks their head up to compensate their families.
Go & let your boat get wrecked off the coast in the middle east & see how much aid comes your way. Start discovering reality.

Individual,

"As for the people who perished & that they could have been Australian ? So what ? If you're unable to assist, you're unable to assist no matter who is in distress"

The question that is being put is that those who were responsible for maintaining the lifeboats in a serviceable condition did not do so.

Had it been Australians that were drowned then I rather think that attitudes would be different.

As for the rough seas, Naval vessels went to the rescue and looking at the footage, I've been in far rougher seas in a small boat.

is Mise,
You're simply physhing for loopholes with the intend to cause problems. if the lifeboats weren't serviced then they weren't useable, full stop ! Why didn't you ensure they were in good condition ?
Now that you know they were neglected have you made arrangements to go there & fix them ? If not why not ? Don't you think more boats could show up at any moment ? hadn't you better make sure then the rescue equipment is in serviceable condition ? Go on, move.
You obviously haven't been there because you say naval vessels were there. What ? So close to those rocks ? Don't criticise if you yourself are nowhere to be found near the disaster area.
If you really want to prevent another tragedy and, prevention is the only thing to concentrate on now, then go to the middle east, talk to the mindless morons causing the strife & talk them out of coming here because it obviously is very risky. Tell them they're costing us so much money we don't have enough left to maintain our rescue equipment.
Perhaps you could prevent tragedies which are not of our making yet you blame us & want to make us pay for them. You are an Australian so do your bit with your money & your effort because many of us have our own problems to work on. If you have spare time, spare cash & spare energy go over there & stop them becoming refugees. That way you could some real good instead of blaming us for the problems of their own making. Tell them that we have a saying "you get what you sow".

The people who put the lifeboats there, at taxpayer expense, had a duty to maintain them in serviceable condition and ready for instant use.

They had a duty of care, just as the supplier of the refugee boat had a duty of care to see that it was seaworthy and had an efficient crew.

The bloke in command had a duty of care to stay clear of land in the prevailing conditions.

Failure by the supplier and his crew in no way negates the failure of care in regard to the lifeboats.

is Mise,
How do you actually know the equipment wasn't useable ? Any pictures ? Or are you just taking some vermin lawyer's word for it. Have we got any interviews with the people charged of maintaining the equipment ? Why wasn't it maintained ? Was it perhaps due to some Labor voting bureaucrat that the maintenance wasn't done ? More than likely I'd say no funding was approved & now they're trying get money out of us ?
You still haven't told us what you're going to do to solve this, perhaps you're ready to put your money where your mouth is ? Get the money you're seeking out of the people responsible not from us taxpayers, AGAIN !

Just what are you talking about Is Mise?

A life boat is a thing you use to abandon a sinking ship. Modern ones can cover reasonable distances in rough seas, & have a self righting capacity if rolled over.

They are definitely not maneuverable vessels, suitable for use in waters close to a rocky shore line, & would be totally unsuitable for rescue work in such conditions.

From what I saw of the conditions, with the debris in the water no sensible person would even consider taking an outboard powered boat into the area.

That leaves only things like the navy RIBs, inflatable pontoon boats as even mildly suitable, & they are not something the government has sitting around for rescue work.

Hasbeen,
I think is Mise is working for the lawyer, physhing for loopholes. i definitely wouldn't expect a person of integrity to carry on like that.
I'm surprised is Mise hasn't accused the Abbott Government for not being there when MH370 vanished. I mean how dare they didn't have rescue facilities at hand. Inexcuseable relly !
Perhaps we should introduce a rescue tax so Australia can cover the whole Indian Ocean ?

Do any of you posters know just how bad some of these vessels really are? The RAN & Customs patrol boats spend more time on the slipways at Larrakeyah getting cracks welded up in their hulls than time in the water and actually intercepting irregular arrivals.
The Crown government (under Fuhrer Howard, then Rudd and Gillard and now Fuhrer Abbott) have wound back maintenance programmes, to the barest minimums.

Patrols put up by NOFARCE are few and far between, and barely manned at minimum levels for the time they actually spend on the ground doing surveillance, chasing gun runners, drug smugglers, wildlife smugglers and others to boot. There was even a possibility a few years back, around the time of the "Great Intervention" or
'OPERATION REACH AROUND' as it was known, of 'çontracting out' the patrols to private companies, who were set up with the gear needed.

Reichs Chancellor Morrison and crew saying the RAN couldn't navigate is nothing more than using our ADF personnel as a scapegoats. It could have all been stopped dead in its tracks in the early 1980's when a patrol boat fired a burst of .50 cal over the bows of an offending SIEV. Fuhrer Hawke was furious and said skipper was keel-hauled and spanked most vigorously!

Herr Morrison is telling us great big porkies by saying the boats are'nt coming, for why why why would we need to build a 3,500 pax centre closer to Momote airport at Mokerang on Los Negros in Manus Island?

And again I apologise to you all for the side-tracking of this thread.

There's a very easy solution to all of the legal kerfuffle, amalgamate the laws of each state and territory into one easy to use set, but still using all the relevant precedents decided, and common law applicable. Abolish the state parliaments and vamp up the local governments giving them greater powers in each jurisdiction. It could be included in a new constitution along with a better human rights being enshrined and not appended like it has been dealt with.

I hear the squeals already from my learned colleagues !

The Carmody appointment reminds me of when Bjelke-Petersen appointed Albert Field as a National replacement for a deceased ALP Senator in order to help topple the Whitlam Government and their later disgraced politically appointed Police Commissioner exposed by the Fitzgerald enquiry.

Queensland in particular has a history of appointing stooges to high office to entrench their power, as well their tendency not to comply with the Separation of Power requirements.

Individual,

I posted "Allegedly the sea rescue equipment was not kept in working order and that the Government had a 'duty of care' to have it ready for instant use; if this is the case then the status of those needing assistance is irrelevant."

What don't you understand about "allegedly"?

What don't you understand about "allegedly"?
is Mise,
allegedly is a rather obscure but convenient phrase to stir trouble yet it offers a handy, albeit hypocritical way out of the argument. Mostly religous connivers employ that tactic. Come to think of it, why don't the asylum seekers head straight for Lourdes, we could do with one of your miracles on that scene.

Stumped at Lourdes.

Yes Albie Manton in Darwin, some of us do know.

They were never meant to be used as tugs, to tow illegal immigrants from Indonesia to Christmas Island. They were never meant to be used as tugs to tow even a dinghy, let alone the huge boats the people smugglers were using.

The navy were bitching about how the boats were being destroyed, but that did not stop Rudd & Gillard buying a few western Sydney Muslim votes, by using them to facilitate the illegal trade.

It's a joke, after years of that pair, & Beattie/Bligh, promoting their favored lawyers into all the top positions, that those same receivers of favor, now bitch when the boot is on the other foot. It really is time we had a few top judges who don't owe a favor to the Labor party.

Now come on Tony & take Queensland's lead, it's the ABCs time, just be careful you don't loose your boot. It might get stuck in all that fat.

The lawyers are still at it in the media.

Isn't it strange that they don't seem to understand the separation of powers. You would expect they, of all people, would understand the laws of the land.

I wonder what it is they don't understand. Should we have to tell them that they administer the law they have been appointed by the government to administer, not choose who will administer it.

You would think they would understand that they have to be elected to parliament, if they want chose who is appointed to the bench.

When they offer themselves for the people to elect or reject, they can have a say on appointments if elected. Until then, they are nothing better than any other nonelected pressure group, & probably a damn sight less deserving than most.