Things are moving along quite nicely with this thread. All the predictable stuff about the "right to protest" from the 'Usual Suspects'.
To answer one of my favorite OLO contributors;

Beach, as you are a known supporter of the ultra right, I would assume in your perfect totalitarian society there would be no independent national broadcaster like the ABC, and therefore no Q&A, well not in its present form. More likely a panel of one consisting only of your man the Supreme Leader himself, to which host Beach would be "firing" the questions "Supreme Leader why are you so wonderful?" Supreme Leader would reply with a 30 minute monolog as to why he is so wonderful, then no more questions. Well as for protesters, and Tony Jones for that matter, I'm sure the cattle trucks would be kept busy shipping protesters and Tony out for resettlement.

SPQR, there is no danger of you ever becoming "progressive". unless inventing new toys for Runner to use down at the Inquisition is considered progressive.

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Shadow, a nice little platitude there about;
<<The right to free speech is one of the things I consider of utmost importance to society. It follows that protest is one form of this right and should be protected. And there are many inventive ways to get one's message across.>> all warm and fuzzy stuff, BUT you then fall back into your old conservative way with "the problem" <<when the protests infringe on the rights of others to protect their property, to go about their lives free of risk of assault, and to voice their own opinions. Assaulting a policeman, damaging cars or blocking trams does get attention, but costs unrelated people their property or wages simply because one sanctimonious twit considers that his opinion is more important than anyone else's.>> Forget the warm and fuzzy stuff, invoke that old thorny chestnut of "law and order"! In that way ALL protests can be outlawed simply on the pretext of what might happen.
I have been to a couple of protests where the instigators of trouble have been the police themselves. 'Coppers' in general tend to be of the political right by nature, otherwise they wouldn't be coppers would they, and given a tense situation, given to confrontation with people they personally don't agree with, given the opportunity under the "law" to take action. its only natural for some coppers to want to smash a few heads. I must add the vast majority of street protests I have attended have been at times noisy, but generally peaceful.

Paul 1405, yes, we've been over this a hundred times, anyone who instigates violence at public events or who encourages violence online or in print is a cop of some sort. Socialist Alternative and the other state provocateurs are used to create the pretext for police intervention in otherwise peaceful situations, the core of the violent "students" all seem to be in their thirties and forties.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5470152-3x2-700x467.jpg
Why go to a peaceful rally wearing a mask? Answer; he's a cop, here's how it works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5RaaM3-YYk
It's the same people at the road protests, the refugee rallies etc, they work with the police, here are the "head kickers" of SA in Melbourne:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1sbvGwybH6o/USZGlo3UmKI/AAAAAAAAAHM/9Tdei7q2eTA/s1600/LEFTY+PROTESTER+WANTED+SIGN+FINISHED.jpg
Here's Anthony Main consulting with his Police colleagues at a May Day march circa 2009, he's asking them to remove as group of Anarchists with whom he had a disagreement:
http://majorityrights.com/images/uploads/Athony+Main+Anti+Fa+demanding+the+police+stop+us+marching.JPG

What's the "political right" and who are the "ultra right"?
Give us the names of the right wing leaders and ideologues in Australia?
What are the schools of thought attached to the "ultra right' and can you name their think tanks and the professional academics who staff them?
The ALP, Lib/Nats, Greens and PUP all believe in the same things, that is to say they all worship the same gods, free trade,multiculturalism/Anti Racism and political correctness in word and deed.
Liberals are not "right wing", Libertarians are not "right wing", the "Left" as personified by the Greens and ALP are just as entangled with the commercial elites and colonial nabobs as the coalition, who are these "rightists" you speak of?

Paul,

<<Beach… I would assume in your perfect totalitarian society there would be no independent national broadcaster like the ABC>>

Independent?
ROFLMAO

IMbeing vague..but it seems mainly the complaint[re the education-stuff]..is thats a specific topic[is that most commentating..'got'..as free degree/said they NEED STAY FREE/BUT AS JOES SAYS WE LOST THAT ONE[AS CHRISTPOFER SAYS..HE OWESFOR HIS LAST FEW..AND HERE AM I AN ILLITERATE TRYING TOCLARIFY FOR the illumed ones...to wise in their own eyes.

but if the topic is protesting..[methodoligy].the only thing that works is lobby/like joe loves his midday fotty/and clive likes his peace when he eats..but its getting onto the same places/p+c]or their hobby or their cliub[and politics needs play in many clubs[if only to manm the booths'

BUT IM UNSURE WHERE THIS THREAD IS TO GO
but liked what chistofer said..TO A POINT.LIKE YOUR RICH..need suport ya peers/and your teachers...tenure/and to lay ongoing claim to facility/or advantage..but in the name of truth..all state/level of education[ie the pre-state]schools..should be free/costs by federal education bond..BUT PRIVATE/ and higher ed USERS MUST PAY YOUR OWN WAY[ie no govt money at all/but to underwrite a bond.

i suspect the topic was intended more towards education/not protest[but forget prtotest/get into their networks/[lobby]..to build yoirt own cliche[once ya know what really burns their passion[sadly mostly honours/title..PEERR RECOGNITION.[respect].

Poirot

glad that you now believe in absolutes. I am not sure what basis you have to believe a lie is a lie but again bible proves true. Let every man be a liar and God be true.