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The Right To Protest?
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Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 1 June 2014 3:59:04 PM
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Poor reply Jay baby. You're betrayed by your own language.
Let me educate you. The term "right wing" or "righties" does not, I repeat *NOT* (for your edification), mean anti democracy or anti liberal. You seem to be confusing Fascism with "right wing", or more likely just obfuscating for the sake of obfuscation. Some people are more hard line right wing than others. If you don't comprehend what that means, then all the education from me won't assist you. But like I said, the likely fact is that you couldn't possibly be THAT stupid, so it's pretty safe to assume you're obfuscating merely for the sake of obfuscation (if you don't know what that word means try looking it up in a dictionary). Bye. Posted by Nhoj, Sunday, 1 June 2014 4:15:03 PM
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Nhoj,
I'm not seeking direction, I'm a long time observer of fringe politics and I want to know what you know about the "right"? In eight years of study I've never come across a real world "right wing" group in Australia but maybe you have and would like to share your experiences? Who are they? What are their names? What is the name of their ideology? In what parts of Australia are they active? Which recent notable or newsworthy events have featured the "right"? Bear in mind also that repeated studies by anti Racist academics in the U.S. (Chua & Xub 2006, Glaser, Dixit & Green 2002, Lees & Leets 2002) have failed to find found much less substantiate any firm link between online "Far Right" blogs and forums and real world political activism. So according to those studies comments made online in forums, on blogs and via social media have no link to real world events and they're not indicative of a wider "movement", moreover when tested on focus groups their messages, while having an initial shock value fail to make a lasting impression on the subjects. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 1 June 2014 4:44:40 PM
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Butch, Hasbeen, are that far to the right they no longer have a voice . Just like Tony. Where are you going to find someone that can ever believe what he says.
After a budget based on lies it is impossible for any form of redemption. And all caused by himself. Posted by 579, Sunday, 1 June 2014 4:55:40 PM
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There seems to be a contradiction here, with some claiming on the one hand that there is a legitimate right to protest, but at the same time wanting to deny that very right based on some public order concerns.
Its difficult to fathom if such concerns are genuine or do they simply want to outlaw negative protests. You cannot protest about authoritarian laws. because authority has made laws preventing protests about authoritarian laws, catch 22. Shadow, are you saying the leopard has changed his spots. I have vivid recollections of "un-badged" coppers, ably assisted by fascists thugs violently arresting peaceful war protesters back in my younger days. Didn't seem to mind the TV cameras around then. Evidence of government in Australia going to far. Its not the first time and its not new. In 1977, Joh Bjelke-Petersen in Queensland announced that "the day of street marches are over", warning protesters: "Don't bother applying for a march permit. You won't get one. That's government policy now!" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/12/victorian-anti-protest-laws-passed-amid-outcry-from-public-gallery Protests must work, you find in totalitarian regimes, anti government protests are heavily suppressed, while pro government rallies are strongly encouraged/supported. Yep, North Korea is a prime example of such, as is China. Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 1 June 2014 6:16:48 PM
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Its called freedom of speech and freedom of movement ! As yet we are not in an absolute Police state no one has the right to stop them protesting unless they are doing something unlawful ! Tony Abbott and Joe Hockey had one thing in common when they went to University, Do you know what that was ? They both led protests against Government changes to Universities ! call it Karma !
Posted by trapdiocan, Sunday, 1 June 2014 7:48:53 PM
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I believe you are espousing the right for protesters to be a public nuisance? You automatically blame the police for the violence, yet with cameras everywhere, and the threat of suspension or worse for cops that overstep the mark, excuse me if I view your accusation with some skepticism.
I am not advocating the banning of protests, just the punishment of those that break the law to the same extent as any other lunatic that damages property or makes a nuisance of himself.
My observations are that the left whingers are the first to try and close down the free speech of anyone with a contrary opinion.