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Has welfare become a glorified and acceptable part of the Australian identity?

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Welfare, and sponging off the government in the form of centrelink money seems to have become an acceptable part of our society. Every fortnight, crowds line up outside the centrelink office to collect their money, before returning home to their houses. Understandably, many of these people are actively searching for jobs and a source of income, but it seems to be that the majority of people on welfare are simply lazy.
My question; is laziness rewarded by welfare handouts in today's society? Isn't Australia meant to be all hard-working?
Posted by mandialatoppino, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 12:12:48 PM
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Corporate and business plus upper middle class *GOVERNMENT WELFARE* is the *ONLY* type of welfare that is bankrupting Australia.

These very well off spongers on the rest of the community should hand their "WELFARE* back.

Welfare should be *ONLY* for the poor, needy, unemployed and elderly who qualify for "genuine" assistance.

Everyone else should DO IT ON THEIR OWN.

These corporate and upper middle class bludgers on the rest of Australia should feel ashamed of themselves.
Posted by Nhoj, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 11:11:26 PM
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<<is laziness rewarded by welfare handouts in today's society?>>

It currently is - and the remedy is to award the same basic welfare to EVERYONE, regardless whether they work or not or whether they stand in stupid queues every fortnight pretending to be looking for work, thus laziness (and fraud) will no longer be rewarded.

<<Isn't Australia meant to be all hard-working?>>

Meant by whom?
Are we anybody's slaves?

I think we are meant to feed ourselves, clothe ourselves, shelter ourselves, take care of ourselves - this requires moderate-working, not hard-working: it's only the luxuries that demand hard-working, too often the perverse luxuries of others.

Also, while it's nice when everyone contributes, formally or informally, paid or unpaid, it's even nicer when nobody does it grudgingly just because they need money to pay for their bare-necessities. It's also nicer when no unnecessary jobs are created that do not enhance any real happiness (not to mention such jobs that are even harmful).
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 11:38:29 PM
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we are the livinG MORETAL HEIRS OF THE IMMORTAL GOOD WHO CREATED EVERYTHING..we are all EQUALLY ENTITLED TO SHARE HIS WEALTH/freely.

but some get greedy/making others needy
some catch all the fish/swapping it for extra'S//LIKE FOOD SEX
THING IS SOME WANT BETTER OR WANT IT ALL/AND THATS FINE IF THEIR WORKING TO GET extra

but we are all entitled to a fair share
thus a public dividend..MUST BE THE BASIS OF ANY 'CIVIL' SOCIETY
[AS I DID WHEN I CREATED Gods money[wikiseed/wikigeld/via sun treaty]
your own bank/that gives us the same leverage for cash/bankERS GET/but if we all get it..its double..not 7 fold..[they dont care johan]

the oot pillage and plunder society CANT SUSTAIN UNLIMITED LARGESS TO THE ELITE/THEY RAN FROM europe with their riches/into the city of london/and on into wal street/theN VIA CIA PentrAM/PETUPGONE/THEY GO GLOBA WAR TO PLUBDER THE WEALTH OF THE WORLD

and JOE HOCKEY Just gave them a great gift
the royal treasury..THAT HE IS SELLING FOR OVERINFLATED YANKI PAPER
THAT STEALS THE LAST OF HRH GOLD/PLUS ALL THE PROOF OF THE CRIME..AT A cost tO US YOU Will rue..that day..the money changers took it all away/with petro paper/SO THE JAPS got into it tOO..

why bother TRYING TO EXplain
let the FOOLS GET THEIR BAILIN AND THE MOB WREAK ITS VENGENCE/
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 15 May 2014 7:26:55 AM
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Australia doesn't have a high deficit and isn't a high tax nation.

Nhoj

Agreed, corporate sponging, particularly by the use of tax avoidance schemes, is one example, government funding of private schools is another, corporate welfare for farmers should also be subject to audit. Farmers who need drought assistance from the government shouldn't be in the business.

mandialatoppino,

How do you know that "the majority of people on welfare are simply lazy"? If the Coalition government's budget cuts contribute to a recession and members of the middle class find their jobs and real estate 'wealth' evaporating they will be very much in favour of welfare, let's wait and see.
Posted by mac, Thursday, 15 May 2014 9:32:08 AM
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mandialatoppino, you have forgotten one small detail! That being that many, on their way home tripmover the pub/club, pokies, TAB and tabbacco shops to piss away a fair portion of their tax payer funded gift. Not all, but some.

The best way to combat this is to stop providing an ATM card, and provide a restricted debit card instead, because after all, welfare waste is a major concern and, those who don't waste their welfare now will not be disadvantaged by this type of system.

I rather like to plan of, earning or learning.

If you don't have a job, you go to training sessions.

The days of a free lunch are over, and thank god for that.
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 15 May 2014 9:44:22 AM
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