<<in the U.S.A violent crime is a one way street, Black on Black, White on White, Mexican on Mexican.>>
Are you talking today. as past history certainly does not support that. But don't confuse the criminal who will perpetrate violent acts against anyone for criminal gain.
An example of racism in Australia's history; Chinese on the goldfields.
European miners had many reasons for disliking the Chinese but an anti Chinese sentiment existed in Australia and Europe long before the gold rush. It was borne of a European belief in superiority over other races and a fear that cheap Chinese laborers were taking European jobs.
In the US after the civil war, the south was decimated and this gave rise to extreme acts of racism as poor blacks competed with poor whites for what little there was.
Racism existed in Australia in the past just as it does today. After WWII when large numbers of Southern Europeans migrated, they were viewed with a degree of hostility from some. This hostility never spilled over into extreme violence as times were relatively good with full employment etc, so there was no severe competition for jobs, houses and so on.
There is always the bigoted racists around, and no matter what, they 'hate' and it can't be avoided. Look at the policies of a racists political party like Australia First, you will see in those policies the elements that create unjustified fear. they talk of the need to "Protect sovereignty" through "defense", the fortress Australia mentality. They refer to "social cohesion", migration and employment the need to dismantle "multiculturalism". Their policies are geared to a totally homogenous society and to what ends they would go to in achieving that is unclear,

Nhoj, I don't "hate" anyone or "fear" other cultures.

I question the sensibleness and claimed "necessity" of an all-inclusive perpetually-numerous policy.

What I "fear" is the social instability/confusion that future generations will have to deal with.

It's all very easy to profess an acceptance of "Chinese", "Turkish", "Tongan" and "Mexican" people and culture.

Nice neat comprehensible little pigeonholes.

That's what you've got *now*, because immigrants bring their established lifestyles and identities with them.

But what of the *children* of Chinese-Turkish parents who marry and have kids with the children of Tongan-Mexican parents.

And then those children grow up and marry Zulu-Tamil-Korean-Tahitians.

Who the hell are those people going to "be"?
What kind of identity is even possible for such poor sods?

"Human"? That means NOTHING!
Humans don't live as humans.
They live as Chinese, Turks, Tongans, Mexicans, etc.

"It's a trip back to pre WW2 Australia."

I hope not.
No surfers, no rock n roll, no bad taste horror-comedy Nazi zombie movies.

"Look at the post by Chrisgaff1000"

I believe his violent intentions were directed at "dinky di Aussies" not the "darkies". Read it again.
Perhaps Chris can clarify.

"poor geriatrics"

I thought ageism was a no-no.

Paul1405 "A well educated person might be a racists for opportunistic reason"

A well-educated person might be aware of the Human Development Index, GDP-per-capita, the genetic, historical and cultural/linguistic relationships (or lack thereof) of the many peoples of the world.

Only an uninformed person would accept a superficial, simplistic utopian fairytale as political policy, just because "we're all humans".

"It is difficult say, for a poor white person to lash out at other poor whites"

Que? Every bloody weekend! (not me personally)

"to what ends they would go to in achieving that is unclear"

Of course, the implied mass murder/massacres.
Because we all know every "nationalist" is really a Nazi at heart.
Yawn!

The only good Nazi is a living dead Nazi.

Dear davidf,

Thank you for the topic. Hopefully I can provide a lucid response.

Permit me to couch my argument in terms of empathy. When we are newborn our 'love and affection' is primarily directed toward our mother after all she is the one who most often feeds us and attends to our other needs. Bonds are laid down that normally last for life. Fathers and siblings are the next in line followed perhaps by pets then grandparents. As the infant develops so does their empathy for other humans and creatures. It becomes distressing for them to see others in pain or to be parted from them.

Through childhood this circle of empathy extends into the community often through mother's groups, play groups, child care, and preschool. As the child gets older developing a sense of belonging to extended groups becomes important. Some may fill this need through sporting teams or other clubs, through broad friendship groups, and later perhaps through membership of subculture cliques etc.

Often it is only through the security offered by knowledge one's of place in an inner ring that facilitates a preparedness to empathise with those further removed. This is a journey that in most people continues their entire life, sometimes retarded for a time and sometimes accelerated but none the less always moving outward. Love of country is just a way point of that journey, though perhaps it might be regarded by some as a detour.

Eventually people get to the stage you have davidf, able to empathise with humanity in its entirety and extend that to the natural world.

Insecurity however stymies that perfectly natural development. For some the journey is arrested by racism or bigotry, for others by war, for many by unscrupulous media or politicians, but in the end fear and lack of empathy play a large part.

So to love of country. A stated I think it is part of the natural, though by no means essential, part of a developing sense of empathy, combined with fear and insecurity it becomes nationalism reinforcing the sense of 'us' and 'them'.

Dear SteeleRedux,

Empathy for all sentient beings is admirable.

Identification is not.

It is sad when empathy for others is misplaced or misdirected towards inanimate objects, including imaginary mental constructs such as "nation".

Good post SteeleRedux. However, it will go way over the heads of the handful of fear filled people on this forum.

They just won't comprehend what you wrote. They insist that Australia be as "white" as possible, they fear other cultures, and they are intellectually incapable (via a lifetime's dogma training) of empathy towards people who are not just like "them". They won't change, their "beliefs" are ingrained and nothing you or anyone else says will change their "beliefs".

Wm Trevor,
LOL, I see what you did there, very good, very good indeed.
No my rootless existence is well in hand thanks.