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When is a Tax not a Tax?

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Butch, wants us to show more respect for our betters!

So, How do you (Paul1405) propose we fix the massive debt problem you and your labor mates, through your unconditional support of those economic vandals created without cutting back, or increasing taxes?

Firstly the debt problem is not massive as you Tory's would have everyone believe, it's brought about as a consequence of the cyclic boom and bust that is indicative of capitalism. I did post the following for your edification, can't you read.

<<Hasbeen, Butch and anyone else, really the answer is plain to see, tax those who rip off our resources, tax those that pollute our sky's, stop the millionaire mums from doing a cash grab, cut the massive corporate welfare, dump the folly of outrageous military spending. And then and only then Abbott might stand half a chance of managing the economy, but I doubt it!>>

Nhoj, thanks mate, as for the 'Usual Suspects' <<playing on home computers>>. The lads all share the one 'puter down at the nursing home, its an old 'Commodore 64' Nurse picked it up at the church jumble sale, she thought it would keep the lads amused! Makes a change for the "boys" from sitting there all day, mouth open catching fly's. Besides Wednesday is special, its 'jelly and custard' night at the home, you never know, Hassy might get seconds, and don't forget its lights out 7pm sharp for the lads! So goodnight Butch, goodnight Hasbeen, sleep well, don't forget, take your medication and sweet dreams.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 8:44:53 PM
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Ludwig wonders why this Government won't 'slash/halve' immigration to our country in order to raise money so we don't need to raise taxes.

Can you imagine if Australia said to the rest of the world :
"Ok guys look, Australia is now SHUT to all immigration from any other country, because we only want to be populated by those who are born in Australia."

Yeah right!
I can just see how many countries would react to being told they now have to shoulder the burden of all the world's refugees without Australia taking it's share,
or that Australia did not feel that other cultures/races/colours/religions of people from other countries were 'suitable' to live in Australia.

We would lose trade left, right and centre, and business with other countries would suffer as a result of such a dreadful policy, not to mention outright war!

Ludwig, we are part of the world and we have to play nicely with everyone else if we don't want more trouble.
Think about it...
Posted by Suseonline, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 9:19:39 PM
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Suse, let's hope Ludwig never forms a political party and becomes PM .. Australia would be bankrupt within 6 months. Poor Ludwig, he doesn't understand politics, he doesn't understand finance, he doesn't understand nature, he doesn't understand immigration and he doesn't understand road rules. I wonder what his day job is?
Posted by Nhoj, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 10:35:28 PM
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Suse, you’re sounding a lot like that Nhoj character. Very shrill and polarised to say the least. Hey, you two aren’t one in the same person are you??

You wouldn’t want to completely contradict yourself in your first two paragraphs by any chance would you? …

You say:

<< Ludwig wonders why this Government won't 'slash/halve' immigration…. >>

And then:

<< Ok guys look, Australia is now SHUT to all immigration from any other country… >>

Erm… excuse me, but halving immigration is not shutting all immigration!

The rest of your post is based on this invention in your mind that I have espoused a shut-down of immigration!!

Dear o dear Suse, get with it!!

We could have an immigration program that is very much smaller than the current level, which would still allow for a quite considerable intake of refugees (about the same that we now bring in annually) as well as essential skills and associated family reunion.

We wouldn’t be offsiding any country if we did this. But we would be doing a fundamentally sensible thing given that we are faced with a quite critical national budgetary situation, which absolutely needs to be turned around from rapidly growing deficit and an enormous and rapidly increasing interest bill, to a steadily declining level of debt and a no-debt situation in a decade or so from now.

The level of immigration, whether you like it or not, is a HUGE factor in our national fiscal strategy.
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 11:07:58 PM
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Ahhhh, Suse and Nhoj are the same person. Ha ha ha. I love a good conspiracy theory.
Posted by Nhoj, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 11:25:39 PM
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Ludwig, oh paranoid one, you only have to look back at my fascinating post history to see that I have often stated similar comments re immigration and population growth.
So, no, I don't believe I know, nor remember as a poster before, the one called Nhoj.

And you can't deny that you would prefer NO immigration to Australia, except those from the 'Mother Country' maybe?

Never mind Ludwig.
I see good old 'Tones has now broken his major election promise of paid parental leave for Mothers earning up to $150,000 a year, so there will be some savings for our apparently 'stricken' economy there.

What next though?

Have you looked at the new Residential Care 'reforms' due to start from July 1st?
We won't need to worry about taxes any more, after we have to sell the family home in order to move into Aged Care facilities...
Posted by Suseonline, Thursday, 1 May 2014 12:48:05 AM
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