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When is a Tax not a Tax?

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I really do wonder if in the remaining time I have left on this earth I'll E V E R find a politician that either doesn't lie, or isn't corrupt to the eyeballs ? I mean a politician of any political persuasion, federal, state, or local government ?

I sincerely and honestly believe, there are more honest, ethical and less corruptible individuals doing 'boob' out at Long Bay, than out loose running around somewhere ?
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 4:43:34 PM
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rehctub,

"As for taxing the rich, for all those tall poppies out there, the next time either you, or someone you know, gets a reduced train ticket, a free prescription, a free visit to the doctor, a discountnon theirmrates, rent assistance, family supplements, in fact, any hand out, just remember, those GIFTS didn't come from the government, they came from the high income earners, the one you continually despise.

The very least you could do was show a little respect. You should all be ashamed of yourselves formbeing so disrespectful tomthenvery hands that provide the much needed support you receive FOR FREE!"

What an absolute load of BS.

"...show a little respect..."

What are you, some ridiculous Dickens character?

THE most successful economies in modern times have all been generous social democracies....you know the sort that had you earning big bickies before the rich guy owners made it too expensive for the rents you wanted to pay...remember?

The likes of you never get it through your head that a healthy, industrious and equitable society is always going to out perform the austerity-driven Scrooge societies.

Take a peek at Scandinavian countries, who have generous social policies....entirely solvent and prosperous.
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 4:54:38 PM
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It's always been the case that lies and spin can get you into Government but they certainly won't keep you there.

Some pre-election commentators insisted that this series of back-downs and knee-jerk reactions was precisely what was going to happen, but even they are stunned by the frequency and extent.

These are ideological proposals and not economic ones and are creating new enemies every day.
Posted by wobbles, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 7:44:53 PM
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For all those wondering about how the Direct Action plan to cut emissions will work -

Imagine that Greg Hunt is a Highway Patrol Officer.

He pulls over those people who are speeding the most and, instead of writing them a ticket he offers them a cash payment as an incentive to slow down.

Brilliant strategy. I wonder if he found it on Wikipedia?
Posted by rache, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 7:51:26 PM
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How else to reduce the debt...simple, CUT SPENDING!

ABSOLUTELY Bec

As you say, Abbott’s own analogy is:

"Like households and like businesses, governments have to live within their means. Every dollar that government spends is a dollar taken from the people in taxes or in borrowings. Everything that government does has to be paid for either in today’s taxes or tomorrow’s taxes – with interest. And continuing a cycle of debt and deficits might briefly save a government from a bad headline, but it won’t help you, the people, to plan a stronger and better future."

So then, one has to wonder why he, Hockey and the whole sordid mob are so totally blind to the biggest factor of all in the cutting of expenditure.

Immigration!

With one fell swoop Abbott could halve immigration, and thus cut expenditure by about 40b$ per annum straight away, and then reap further savings by progressively reducing it over the next few years.

He’s the ‘infrastructure PM’. The biggest problem with the budget shortfall is that we don’t have the wherewithal to build and upgrade all the infrastructure we need. Well, a very large part of that infrastructure is needed to keep up with our enormous rate of population growth, of which immigration comprises about two thirds.

So, the OBVIOUS thing to do is to slash immigration.

Why then is this not even mentioned, ever, by Abbott, Hockey…. anyone in the Labor camp, or analysts anywhere?
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 8:09:47 PM
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<< I can't understand why they want to get rid of the mining tax and the carbon tax - and target the most vulnerable in our society >>

Simple Foxy. They are absolutely in bed (and in eternal coitus between the sheets) with big business!!
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 8:11:51 PM
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