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Neville Wran - Balmain Boys Don't Cry!

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"Deinstitutionalization" did have social impact; many of the former inmates of mental institutions rode the Sydney suburban train network all day long, just for something to do with their enforced freedom.
The police also got more work as some of the former patients got really bored and masturbated while on the trains.
Elderly ladies, at the time, rarely saw the funny side of such things.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 27 April 2014 2:48:59 PM
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And you're still unable to do any independent research, acknowledge mistakes or valid points. You just drone like a propaganda machine, believing that if something is said often enough and loud enough, that it is so. Nurses were never called "professionals" prior to going to university. They were sold that concept by the government's propaganda to make the idea sound attractive, while the motive to do so was to reduce their costs. Under hospital-based training, nurses were paid to work in the wards and to go to lectures, whereas now, they pay to go to university. That's a huge reversal of cost, changing it to revenue. Is the curriculum any different at university than it was in hospitals? Yes, there's less on-the-job training, but the basic lectures are the same for general nurses, but 1790 hours less for mental health, but you are awarded a diploma or degree instead of a certificate.

So your link, as usual, is meaningless. Your desire to talk as an expert on something you know nothing about, is as arrogant as it is ignorant. That's no insult, but fact. An intelligent approach, would be to pose questions, do some meaningful research and acknowledge points and mistakes. Your choice to do NONE of these things but to proffer unfounded opinions ad infinitum is the basis for my uncomplimentary comments. Learn how to verify facts, acknowledge points and errors, and stop droning your misinformation like a broken record, and you'll find my discourse far more palatable.
Posted by Dick Dastardly, Sunday, 27 April 2014 3:03:03 PM
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Is Mise, good points. Many were also housed in the prison system instead of the hospitals that they were evicted from, or as I mentioned, died from suicide or misadventure. It was a heartless, crass and cynical political maneuver by Wran to do what he did.

Cheers.
Posted by Dick Dastardly, Sunday, 27 April 2014 3:08:39 PM
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@Individual...thanks for your support and for reading what I had to say in its intended context. You "got" what I was saying.

Cheers.
Posted by Dick Dastardly, Sunday, 27 April 2014 3:35:04 PM
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Dear DD,

I'm beginning to suspect that you probably don't
have a tertiary qualification. That would explain
a great deal.

In any case I stopped reading your previous post after
you stated to me - "You just drone like a propaganda
machine ..."

You need to be careful.
You don't want to come across as a "grunter," with
a bad attitude.

Dear Is Mise,

I remember when the former Liberal Premier in Victoria
Jeff Kennett closed all the mental institutions and
the tragic effect this had on people and families.

As for masturbating on trains?

I grew up in Sydney and recall quite clearly the number
of people who exposed themselves and groped
others. These people frequented - trains, buses, outside
high schools, libraries. They seemed to be a part
and parcel of Sydney society. The police did very little
about them. So I don't think you can blame Neville
Wran for all of them.

Here's a great link given by The Australian on Mr Wran:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/neville-wran-former-nsw-premier-and-labor-hero-dies-at-87/story-e6frgczx-1226890650993
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 27 April 2014 3:51:26 PM
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For me this discussion has now well and truly
run its course. I would like to Thank everyone
who contributed and
I look forward
to sharing more opinions with you on other discussions.

Stay well.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 27 April 2014 5:44:44 PM
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