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Why does Tony Abbott slump in polls - despite his best week yet?

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Hi there...

I'm really confused ? At every turn we hear how bad, even iniquitous Tony Abbott is ? How every promise he made prior to the general election, has or will be broken ?

Yet when we look to the other major party, Labour, we see experiential evidence of six years of unfettered spending, that's left us in a mountain of debt ? Incidences of misfeasance, disunity and even criminality, both at State and Federal level ?

Let us say for a moment, that both commentaries are correct ? Then who should we now entrust with the reins, to try and govern this magnificent nation of ours ? Surely not the Greens, with their odd, oligarchy style of governing, and their ever present narcissistic attitude that they alone, rule the Senate ! Oh no, PLEASE not the Greens ?
Posted by o sung wu, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 3:51:45 PM
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Foxy>> . Hopefully, they are telling us
the truth. But who knows.<<

There is a diminishing value to what the current crop of non representative swill utter.
Foxy my Kwan Yin I don’t believe that the old “all politicians are liars” sentiment was as strong in pre 1980’s Australia, a time when the American electorate was recognizing that their politicians were and are self serving say anything liars.

I think we as a whole believe pollies are less honest than 30 years ago. I will have a look for any Aussie polls on pollies credibility, interesting....Foxy I deem the defections from the majors to the minors by the electorate is a reflection of this overall mistrust of pledges....they’re all liars is the sentiment....we are like Diogenes searching around in the dark for an honest man...... so we gravitate to the smaller less entangled groups....single issue politics.
Posted by sonofgloin, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 4:00:58 PM
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Dear Hassie,

You're such a tease.
You know darn well that I don't buy into
propaganda which ever side of politics it
comes from. Like many people I utilise a wide
variety of sources - and make up my mind as to
what makes sense to me. My dad taught me to question
everything - and that's something I try to do.

As for my health? Well you'll be sorry you asked me
that question. I'm having a "Review Colonoscopy"
in early May, and then a repeat of the procedure
I had done on my heart last March. I've been told
that sometimes it takes two procedures to succeed
with the Catheter Ablations for Atrial Fibrillation.
Fingers crossed that this one will work for me.
How are you doing? Is your health OK?

Dear SOG,

Thank You for your comments.

It's interesting the mixed views that I'm getting from
people in this discussion. I have to admit that
listening to the news - there are many things that concern
me. Including the cut backs to the CSIRO. I would have
thought that investing in scientific research and new
technologies, as well as in education would ensure a
brighter future for this country. Where will our future
jobs come from without this investment? And will we be
taken seriously if we can't compete on a global level?
We need to look at new ways of doing things, and not
keep doing what we've been doing thus far. Otherwise
we'll end up with the same results we've had. Things do have
to change - yes, but for the better, not the worse.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 4:03:20 PM
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Sonofgloin; I agree.
The Labor party is every bit as bad as the neoconlibs but they do not do it as well.
They are supposed to be a party for the workers but have totally changed direction on this and sold out to the big end of town.
I agree that Labor have been in the big sell off and will again if they get back in.
The point you make about solicitors and union leaders being cozy with big banks is true BUT they are not actually in power right now.
Abort is.
The only party with integrity was the Greens.
They sold themselves to labor in Tassie and are now paying for it.
I just hope that some of the newer ones hold on to their outrage and do not get corrupted.
Posted by Robert LePage, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 4:04:17 PM
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0 sung wu/quote..<<..Yet when we look to the other major party, Labour, we see experiential evidence of six years of unfettered spending, that's left us in a mountain of debt ?>>

WE WENT through much pain..as we sold off telstra
to payoff the debt..[we ammoung the few fina\lly cleared the debt tOP THE FEDERAL RESERVE/WE COULD HAVE TAKEN BACK THE BANK/CAUSE THE DEBT we owed them was payed off

WE COULD NOW BE UCJH LIKE CHANA Or russia [govt minTING /PRINTING ITS OWN MONEY/BUT FOOLS HAVE FORGOTTEN..THE TRICKS

bit gpbally the feds have been mONEY PRINTING
BUT THATS IS ODIOUS DEBT..[crIMINAL DEBT DONE BY ACT OF TREASON/BY THE BANKERS DESPRATLY DRAINING THE PEOPLE DRY..UNDER TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS DEBT

<<.. Incidences of misfeasance, disunity and even criminality, both at State and Federal level>>

absolutly..but how will that end?
the end has already begun..and the army didnt fire on the yanies
http://rss.infowars.com/20140414_Mon_Alex.mp3

<<.Let us say for a moment, that both commentaries are correct ? Then who should we now entrust with the reins, to try and govern this magnificent nation of ours>>

SMALL GOVT..COUNCIL LEVEL SCHOOL Districts apart from pensions DEFENSE EDUCATION AND HEALTH..PLUS MINT/NOT PRINT\Ting branch treasury etc

ie get rid of STATES..HAVE GOVT AT SCHOOL DISTRICT SIZE
basic flat rate GOVT pension..ONE SET RATE FOR All govt payments.

minsters who AUDIT AND OVERSEE THEIR Portfolio duties
on the peoples BEHALF NOT SPECIAL INTERESTS/or business
we simply need minsters over seeing THE PUBLIC SERVICE..NOT THE PUBLIC SERVICE RUNNING THE MINSTER AROUND

SMALL GOVT SO WE GOT No mr too big too fail
MANY SMALL FISH..NO HUGE ONES/RUN UNDER HRH A GG IN EVERY SCHOOL
ans army air force old people kids health education.all govt need 24/7 at schools

it began HERE
http://rss.infowars.com/20140414_Mon_Alex.mp3
NEXT BADgery creek?..how badly will govt react?
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 4:09:07 PM
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cont'd ...

I agree with you SOG - that some people are turning
away from the major parties. Look at the Palmer
United Party - who by all appearances look like
being a force to be reckoned with in the Senate.
Of course how long they will last in politics remains
to be seen. I feel that a great deal depends on what
the government will present in the May budget and how
they will explain things. Also it depends how people
will be affected by all these actions prior to the
next election. Voters are beginning to demand answers
and if they're not going to be taken seriously - that
would not be wise, as I've stated previously.

People will accept many changes - but it is the responsibility
of governments to provide people with the information they
need to make informed choices. Taking voters for mugs -
lying, and not explaining does not serve any one well.

Dear O Sung Wu,

I think that people are simply wanting to be told the truth
about things and have things explained to them. People are
sick and tired of politicians playing the "blame-game,"
continually. As if that excuses things. It doesn't.
People want to know what's going to be happening next,
and why. And if they see an inbalance in the way things
are being chartered - they are concerned. No politician
should take voters for granted or treat them as mugs.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 4:17:51 PM
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