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Why does Tony Abbott slump in polls - despite his best week yet?
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Posted by o sung wu, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 3:51:45 PM
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Foxy>> . Hopefully, they are telling us
the truth. But who knows.<< There is a diminishing value to what the current crop of non representative swill utter. Foxy my Kwan Yin I don’t believe that the old “all politicians are liars” sentiment was as strong in pre 1980’s Australia, a time when the American electorate was recognizing that their politicians were and are self serving say anything liars. I think we as a whole believe pollies are less honest than 30 years ago. I will have a look for any Aussie polls on pollies credibility, interesting....Foxy I deem the defections from the majors to the minors by the electorate is a reflection of this overall mistrust of pledges....they’re all liars is the sentiment....we are like Diogenes searching around in the dark for an honest man...... so we gravitate to the smaller less entangled groups....single issue politics. Posted by sonofgloin, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 4:00:58 PM
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Dear Hassie,
You're such a tease. You know darn well that I don't buy into propaganda which ever side of politics it comes from. Like many people I utilise a wide variety of sources - and make up my mind as to what makes sense to me. My dad taught me to question everything - and that's something I try to do. As for my health? Well you'll be sorry you asked me that question. I'm having a "Review Colonoscopy" in early May, and then a repeat of the procedure I had done on my heart last March. I've been told that sometimes it takes two procedures to succeed with the Catheter Ablations for Atrial Fibrillation. Fingers crossed that this one will work for me. How are you doing? Is your health OK? Dear SOG, Thank You for your comments. It's interesting the mixed views that I'm getting from people in this discussion. I have to admit that listening to the news - there are many things that concern me. Including the cut backs to the CSIRO. I would have thought that investing in scientific research and new technologies, as well as in education would ensure a brighter future for this country. Where will our future jobs come from without this investment? And will we be taken seriously if we can't compete on a global level? We need to look at new ways of doing things, and not keep doing what we've been doing thus far. Otherwise we'll end up with the same results we've had. Things do have to change - yes, but for the better, not the worse. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 4:03:20 PM
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Sonofgloin; I agree.
The Labor party is every bit as bad as the neoconlibs but they do not do it as well. They are supposed to be a party for the workers but have totally changed direction on this and sold out to the big end of town. I agree that Labor have been in the big sell off and will again if they get back in. The point you make about solicitors and union leaders being cozy with big banks is true BUT they are not actually in power right now. Abort is. The only party with integrity was the Greens. They sold themselves to labor in Tassie and are now paying for it. I just hope that some of the newer ones hold on to their outrage and do not get corrupted. Posted by Robert LePage, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 4:04:17 PM
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0 sung wu/quote..<<..Yet when we look to the other major party, Labour, we see experiential evidence of six years of unfettered spending, that's left us in a mountain of debt ?>>
WE WENT through much pain..as we sold off telstra to payoff the debt..[we ammoung the few fina\lly cleared the debt tOP THE FEDERAL RESERVE/WE COULD HAVE TAKEN BACK THE BANK/CAUSE THE DEBT we owed them was payed off WE COULD NOW BE UCJH LIKE CHANA Or russia [govt minTING /PRINTING ITS OWN MONEY/BUT FOOLS HAVE FORGOTTEN..THE TRICKS bit gpbally the feds have been mONEY PRINTING BUT THATS IS ODIOUS DEBT..[crIMINAL DEBT DONE BY ACT OF TREASON/BY THE BANKERS DESPRATLY DRAINING THE PEOPLE DRY..UNDER TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS DEBT <<.. Incidences of misfeasance, disunity and even criminality, both at State and Federal level>> absolutly..but how will that end? the end has already begun..and the army didnt fire on the yanies http://rss.infowars.com/20140414_Mon_Alex.mp3 <<.Let us say for a moment, that both commentaries are correct ? Then who should we now entrust with the reins, to try and govern this magnificent nation of ours>> SMALL GOVT..COUNCIL LEVEL SCHOOL Districts apart from pensions DEFENSE EDUCATION AND HEALTH..PLUS MINT/NOT PRINT\Ting branch treasury etc ie get rid of STATES..HAVE GOVT AT SCHOOL DISTRICT SIZE basic flat rate GOVT pension..ONE SET RATE FOR All govt payments. minsters who AUDIT AND OVERSEE THEIR Portfolio duties on the peoples BEHALF NOT SPECIAL INTERESTS/or business we simply need minsters over seeing THE PUBLIC SERVICE..NOT THE PUBLIC SERVICE RUNNING THE MINSTER AROUND SMALL GOVT SO WE GOT No mr too big too fail MANY SMALL FISH..NO HUGE ONES/RUN UNDER HRH A GG IN EVERY SCHOOL ans army air force old people kids health education.all govt need 24/7 at schools it began HERE http://rss.infowars.com/20140414_Mon_Alex.mp3 NEXT BADgery creek?..how badly will govt react? Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 4:09:07 PM
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cont'd ...
I agree with you SOG - that some people are turning away from the major parties. Look at the Palmer United Party - who by all appearances look like being a force to be reckoned with in the Senate. Of course how long they will last in politics remains to be seen. I feel that a great deal depends on what the government will present in the May budget and how they will explain things. Also it depends how people will be affected by all these actions prior to the next election. Voters are beginning to demand answers and if they're not going to be taken seriously - that would not be wise, as I've stated previously. People will accept many changes - but it is the responsibility of governments to provide people with the information they need to make informed choices. Taking voters for mugs - lying, and not explaining does not serve any one well. Dear O Sung Wu, I think that people are simply wanting to be told the truth about things and have things explained to them. People are sick and tired of politicians playing the "blame-game," continually. As if that excuses things. It doesn't. People want to know what's going to be happening next, and why. And if they see an inbalance in the way things are being chartered - they are concerned. No politician should take voters for granted or treat them as mugs. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 4:17:51 PM
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I'm really confused ? At every turn we hear how bad, even iniquitous Tony Abbott is ? How every promise he made prior to the general election, has or will be broken ?
Yet when we look to the other major party, Labour, we see experiential evidence of six years of unfettered spending, that's left us in a mountain of debt ? Incidences of misfeasance, disunity and even criminality, both at State and Federal level ?
Let us say for a moment, that both commentaries are correct ? Then who should we now entrust with the reins, to try and govern this magnificent nation of ours ? Surely not the Greens, with their odd, oligarchy style of governing, and their ever present narcissistic attitude that they alone, rule the Senate ! Oh no, PLEASE not the Greens ?