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Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 29 March 2014 12:29:56 PM
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2. “The opinion offered below that quote was mine” as is patently evident from any reading of it and the rest of the article. 3. “I did not post any opinion from Zueese all I posted was a summary he made of the Credit Suisse Global Wealth Databook” which is entirely correct and indisputable. You then offered me the following choices; “you prove me right that you borrowed the opinion of Zueese by offering us a “summary” of his opinion”. How could I do that when I demonstrably did not borrow his opinion as has been illustrated above. “this was a non-opinion of yours because there was no opinion offered from the Huffington Post article” I certainly offered no opinion from the article only figures instead I offered my own which I wrote below the figures using them to support my proposition. “the opinion you offered is in fact yours, but not really,” The opinion offered was mine, yes really. “you offered no opinion at all and you just offered OLO’ers an opinion that was indeed “yours”, but it was not connected to the Huffington Post, Zueese or the “Wealth Databook”?” I certainly offered an opinion as I have detailed. That opinion was indeed mine. The connection with Huffington Post, Zuesse and the Wealth Databook was purely with the figures I quoted. I made no other representations. So these were not EXCUSES as you seem to think but explanations, attempts help you understand, to clear up any misapprehensions. As to my headache thank you for caring, I will admit to it being partly the result of an excellent red so not entirely your fault. I feel if we could amicably settle this issue we can move on. Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 29 March 2014 12:31:23 PM
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‘morning Steelie,
Fifth time of posting the question; “What is the difference between private, institutional and corporate wealth? Wow, a double post to avoid answering the question this time? Of course we can amicably settle the issue, that’s how OLO is supposed to deal with different perspectives. Someone asks a valid question related to the core of an opinion, the other ignores it! I keep posting it, you keep ignoring it! Of course I can’t demand an answer and you are not obliged to provide one. But you could do the right thing and withdraw if you are unwilling or unable to answer. What do you suggest? Posted by spindoc, Saturday, 29 March 2014 1:02:27 PM
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Proof Corporate Tax Cuts Have Done More Harm Than Good
http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/proof-corporate-tax-cuts-done-harm-good/ The taxes paid by corporations today are near record lows as a percentage of the United States’ total tax bill, even as they are recording massive profits. Yet the unemployment rate is still high. However, if we turned back the clock on corporate tax rates and returned to Nixon-era levels and closed loopholes, millions of American jobs would be created, according to The Disappearing Corporate Tax Base, a new report released today. http://themindunleashed.org/2014/03/everything-ever-taught-lie.html http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-spoils-of-war-afghanistan-s-multibillion-dollar-heroin-trade/91 http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/2014/03/natural-food-farms-compared-to-organic.html http://guardianlv.com/2014/03/monsantos-pesticides-are-partly-responsible-for-the-collapse-of-the-bee/ http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/27/us-climatechange-idUSBREA2Q1FX20140327 http://warisacrime.org/content/lies-about-rwanda-mean-more-wars-if-not-corrected http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/new-report-shrinking-corporate-tax-base-wreaking-havoc-state-budgets/ http://investmentwatchblog.com/justice-dept-tracking-your-cash-welcome-to-operation-choke-point/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/lauraheller/2014/03/28/walmart-just-revealed-how-poor-u-s-shoppers-are/?partner=yahootix http://sana.sy/eng/22/2014/03/27/535687.htm LOOK ! Proof That Craft or Blackwater Agents did the Boston Marathon Bombing Event ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjocGidSLJw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-xCjbgrWSk http://www.john-friend.net/2014/03/how-holocaust-was-faked.html Posted by one under god, Saturday, 29 March 2014 1:33:22 PM
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Dear spindoc,
Thank you for your considered reply. You have kindly asked “What do you suggest?” I think it is entirely appropriate that we deal with these matters in the order they were raised on the thread. You questioned whether the opinion I offered was my own without a shred of evidence to back up the allegation, well before the question you later posed to me. I have gone to great pains to lay out all the reasons why you were incorrect and yet you refuse to address them, which of course is your right but how can we proceed without this issue being dealt with? Yet deal with it we must since in answering any further questions from you I face exactly the same unwarranted charge being used to dismiss any proposition I put forward. I would need to know that you were able to respond in an honest manner and not resort to unsubstantiated, thread derailing, allegations about any opinion I were to offer. So the question is quite simple, do you accept that the opinion I posted after the Huffington Post figures was my own or instead was that of Zuesse or the Credit Suisse Global Wealth Databook? Kind regards, SteeleRedux Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 29 March 2014 2:12:24 PM
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corporate Sovereignty Provisions Called Into Question Around The World
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140325/10074526680/corporate-sovereignty-provisions-called-into-question-around-world.shtml A couple of weeks ago, we noted that Germany just threw a big spanner in the TTIP works by calling for corporate sovereignty provisions to be excluded. Although perhaps the most dramatic repudiation of investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS), it's by no means the only one. Indeed, the tide really seems turning, as country after country calls into question the need to put corporations on the same level as entire nations http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-the-corporate-annexation-for-cargill-chevron-monsanto-its-a-gold-mine-of-profits/5375170 http://investmentwatchblog.com/koos-jansen-ondon-gold-vaults-are-empty-everything-is-shipped-to-china-the-chinese-dont-want-dollars-they-want-gold/ http://americanfreepress.net/?p=16169 Is CIA Fueling New U.S. Drug Epidemic Using Cheap Heroin from Afghanistan?; CIA, Obama Team Up to Hide Darkest Secrets http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/03/28/thrupney-bits-tits-new-pound-coin-is-elite-schoolboy-joke-for-unwashed-masses/ Osborne is telling us that new pound will have the equivalent value of the old 3 pence and we had all better smile and be thankful for our new, worthless, shiny currency and join the breadline and shut-up like obedient poor-folk always have. http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/35157/IMF-Exposed-in-Ukraine-Promotion-with-Two-Year-Bailout/ http://investmentwatchblog.com/is-government-ethical-cpac-2014/ http://www.blacklistednews.com/How_the_vampire_squid_is_controlling_our_lives%3A_They_helped_cause_the_crash._Then_profited_from_it./34073/0/38/38/Y/M.html http://whatreallyhappened.com/www.undergroundmedic.com http://intellihub.com/imf-eu-capture-ukraine/ Posted by one under god, Saturday, 29 March 2014 3:13:21 PM
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You wrote;
“they were all YOUR excuses I pulled them from your posts!”. Still chomping on that good ol bone I see.
Thankfully a new day brings some clarity so I have attempted to go back and tease out where you went so astray. I am treating it like a logic puzzle since as I stated earlier they can be great source of amusement.
This is what I wrote below the quote from Huffington Post;
“For a hyper-democratic and hyper-capitalistic country like the US to be the most unequal in the list surely forces an examination of what factors of each drives this inequity. The most sobering part of this is the number of its citizens the US must put behind bars to keep control of its society. They outstrip virtually every other nation in the world.”
End Quote!
You asked “I’m curious as to why you don’t have an opinion of your own? Huffington Post?” then “When are you going to formulate or express your OWN opinion?” and finally “Where is your opinion Steelie”.
I have since gone back and read the article in its entirety. Zuesse makes no mention of capitalism and only mentions democracy in the context of political donations. He makes no mention of America's prison population or measures required to keep control of a disgruntled citizenry. There is no call to examine the factors driving the inequity from him either.
Yet this is what you went with;
“If the opinion you expressed about << wealth concentration>> was indeed your own and resulted from original thought, critical thinking and analysis, you would be able to defend your case. Since it was non(sic) of the above you are now left with trying to defend the opinion of Eric Zueese”.
I then made numerous attempts to make the situation clear to you. I said;
1. “There was no opinion offered in my quote from Huffington Post” and most demonstrably there was not since it was just figures.
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