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Racism in Australia

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Hi Paul,

I don't think Brandis was advocating bigotry, just pointing out that it wasn't illegal to be a bigot, since it's impossible to outlaw it. As some posters have pointed out, let a bigot open his mouth and show what a fool he is. I'm reasonably sure that even Brandis would rather people were not bigoted, but that's the real world.

Nothing to see here :)

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 30 March 2014 8:33:06 AM
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It read:
Foxy,
And which is the supposedly most multicultural country out of these ?
Posted by individual, Sunday, 30 March 2014 9:03:15 AM
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Foxy (centre stage)

Says....
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 30 March 2014 9:12:18 AM
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Joe,
There's also the fact that bigots who choose not to express their thoughts in English will get away scot free while only the ones who can be understood by the White and Jewish "Anti Racist" vigilantes will be hounded, humiliated and prosecuted.
What's more upsetting is that these bourgeois White and Jewish vigilantes are nothing but bullies themselves,they target the poor, mentally unstable, addicted and incompetent in their "campaigns".
Has there been a single outrage of late where the "Racist" aggressor was not impaired in some way?
These "bus rant" videos which have become the mainstay of activism for the "Anti Racist" keyboard commandos all feature unwell, obviously low IQ or inebriated protagonists who are always riled up and egged on by the interjections of other commuters.
We don't publish videos of abusive,inebriated, low IQ or mentally unwell Aboriginal commuters online because it's considered bullying a soft and helpless target, why is it OK to publicly humiliate White people in the same condition as with the Peta Nugent train video?
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 30 March 2014 10:54:11 AM
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Foxy says that Australia needs a bigger population. Why? Back in 1994 the Australian Academy of Science recommended 23 million as a safe upper limit. A lot of the environmental and other problems that they predicted back then as a result of high population growth have indeed come to pass. See the Executive Summary of the government's own Long Term Physical Implications of Immigration report.

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/research/_pdf/physical-implications-migration-fullreport.pdf

What do we need the Academy of Science or the CSIRO for though, when we have the wisdom of Foxy?

The defence argument the growthists put up makes no sense. Are the Chinese or Indians with more than 1 billion people each, or even the Indonesians, going to be quaking in their boots because we have 40 or 60 million people? Densely populated countries and even some big densely populated countries such as China still got invaded during WWII.

According to the Productivity Commission, the per capita economic benefit is very small, even neglecting a lot of the environmental and other problems caused by the growth, and mostly distributed to the owners of capital and the migrants themselves. See p. 154 and the graphs on pp. 155 and 147 of the 2006 report on Immigration, also

http://www.pc.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0016/113407/annual-report-2010-11.pdf

I don't dispute the cultural or educational benefits of having some immigration, or that sometimes we really do need to import skills, just the enormous numbers that are set to double our population in 38 and a half years.
Posted by Divergence, Sunday, 30 March 2014 2:07:38 PM
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The concerns about 18C and D are related to what could be done with them by activist judges, due to vague language and lack of objective tests. It is like the situation with Senator Conroy and Labor's internet filter (thankfully abandoned). From the details reported in the media at the time, there would be no restrictions on the type of sites that could be banned. Proceedings would be in secret, and the list of banned sites would be secret, although it would be illegal to link to them. There would be no appeal.

This is what Anthony Dillon, who is part Aboriginal himself, wrote in the March 27 Australian:

"Political correctness, with regard to people who identify as Aboriginal Australians, has reached the ridiculous stage where one can be accused of being racist simply by questioning the motives of some people who identify as being Aboriginal.
"Or there is the obvious elephant in the room. Why is it that someone with multiple ancestries chooses to build their identity around being Aboriginal, when having only one of your 16 great-great-grandparents being Aboriginal qualifies you to claim being Aboriginal? People are free to identify how they wish, but they should not be surprised when they are questioned about it.
"And those who question should feel free to do so without being branded a racist, even if someone claims, 'you hurt my feelings'. Such a claim is really saying, “those who question me have more power over my emotions than I have over them”.
"While claims of being a victim of racism can result in one being elevated to the status of hero, the myth that Australia is a racist country prevents important discussions from taking place: discussions about how to tackle the tough problems of sickness, poverty, alcohol abuse, poor educational outcomes, unemployment...
"Accusations of racism are, for a few, a convenient distraction from tackling real problems. They can elevate the status and careers of a few.
"People avoid addressing these tough issues because they are difficult to tackle and are problems for which Aboriginal people must be part of the solution."
Posted by Divergence, Sunday, 30 March 2014 2:26:49 PM
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